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I'm well aware of Arcanum's option to toggle between real-time and turn-based. Real-time is too fast; turn-based is too slow.

Well, switch often!
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The "fatique" system is just ridiculous. The game, to me, is unplayable.

What's with the fatigue system??
Quest for Glory 1-5 had it, Daggerfall had it, Arcanum had it, Morrowind had it... It's more realistic than being able to swing the sword for an hour. Do you know how heavy a greatsword is? Imagine if you have to swing something which weight 4 kilogramms and swing fast and strong to inflict damage.

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And I don't mind Death. He's a nice fellow, once you get to know him...
You see, often I do not try to be a nice fellow and if I don't care about some people, I don't give a dead cow about what they think of me. You might think of me whatever you wish, I won't die.

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Well, switch often!


I have already expressed my opinion of either approach.

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What's with the fatigue system??
Quest for Glory 1-5 had it, Daggerfall had it, Arcanum had it, Morrowind had it... It's more realistic than being able to swing the sword for an hour. Do you know how heavy a greatsword is? Imagine if you have to swing something which weight 4 kilogramms and swing fast and strong to inflict damage.


The way "fatique" works in Morrowind (I haven't played Daggerfall, nor Quest for Glory; Arcanum we are presently discussing) is hardly the same as the way it works in Arcanum. Combat in Morrowind, though it can grow boring quickly if you limit yourself to melee, is far smoother than Arcanum's. If nothing else, my character doesn't drop unconscious between every two swings or so. Thanks to the pathetic NPC AI and inability to directly control your "followers", strategies are not possible.

Oh, and if you are talking about realism? Please. My character in Arcanum was initially wearing a bloody dress, and it didn't hinder her movement one bit. Shouldn't there be some sort of dexterity penalty? While at that, shouldn't my character need food and water? How can she walk miles and miles across the map without getting footsore? Damn, this game sucks! It isn't realistic! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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You see, often I do not try to be a nice fellow and if I don't care about some people, I don't give a dead cow about what they think of me. You might think of me whatever you wish, I won't die.
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Ah, well, guess you aren't the Death of Discworld. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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The way "fatique" works in Morrowind (I haven't played Daggerfall, nor Quest for Glory; Arcanum we are presently discussing) is hardly the same as the way it works in Arcanum. Combat in Morrowind, though it can grow boring quickly if you limit yourself to melee, is far smoother than Arcanum's. If nothing else, my character doesn't drop unconscious between every two swings or so. Thanks to the pathetic NPC AI and inability to directly control your "followers", strategies are not possible.

Lier! You can control every movement of your NPCs. There are commands like "go", "attack" and such. Combat in Morrowind = Clicking. If you fall unconscious, it's because you're weak so better get some other weapon. Dagger for example.

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Oh, and if you are talking about realism? Please. My character in Arcanum was initially wearing a bloody dress, and it didn't hinder her movement one bit. Shouldn't there be some sort of dexterity penalty? While at that, shouldn't my character need food and water? How can she walk miles and miles across the map without getting footsore? Damn, this game sucks! It isn't realistic! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

The game's more realistic than others while still being fun. In every game you can sleep with your armor on. If you sleep in armor, you couldn't move at all the next day. In arcanum at least the helmet has penality to perception and the gauntlets have augmented unarmed damage. If a game's too difficult for you, leave it. Arcanum was the only chanllenging game I played for a very long time.

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Ah, well, guess you aren't the Death of Discworld. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I am no one else but me.

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euh ..
i have the feeling this "discusion" is getting more of a flaming thingy ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

thats just my opinion ofcours...


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Re-read the post. Yeah, looks so. What if I add a ton of smileys? Will it balance?
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/freak.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/freak.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

Better? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />

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i'm happy now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/party.gif" alt="" />
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Aww! Have a doggie:
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you better not let see that to Jurak!
he probably eats the poor litle doggie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
(it IS a dog isn't ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />)


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it's across breed doggie/gremlin.......

it's a groggie...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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Lier! You can control every movement of your NPCs. There are commands like "go", "attack" and such. Combat in Morrowind = Clicking. If you fall unconscious, it's because you're weak so better get some other weapon. Dagger for example.


Did we play the same game? If my memory serves, the only way to give a follower commands is via dialogue. Ridiculous.

By the way, weren't we discussing Lionheart...?

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You can actually command your followers in Arcanum. Wasn't too well done but if you right click on the portrait you could. Also the shortcuts were from F1-F12 (i think. I used only F1-F3). I cannot deny that some bits in Arcanum were a bit crudely done: that part and the Called Shot part: did you know that < > and / make your ranged weapon target legs, arms or head? No? Well, I didn't either untill I read the manual. It was mentioned in Shortcuts, with not much of an explanation.
Alright, Arcanum is past. Let's go talk about the Temple of Elemental Evil and Riftrunner :0). Forgive me if I insulted you, Winterfox.
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