Originally Posted by kanisatha
Originally Posted by Boblawblah
Then you absolutely (no pun intended) cannot play as a good Dark Urge without some luck, so this whole idea that DU is just Tav+ is nonsense.
You are absolutely correct with this point, and the people trying to contradict you are only ending up contradicting themselves. To claim that DU can be played "good" is patently absurd. DU cannot be played good by any stretch of the imagination.
Yes, good is a stretch with Durge. The best is a redemption arc, but the wisdom roles are representing their urged, so they have to fight against themselves to not commit a murder. Not really good guy/gal behaviour.

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