Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion Why scaring off from Dark Urge?

I'm talking of course of Revan from Knights of the old Republic. I don't think it's exactly the same, because you being potentially evil is not a secret at all, but your true origin is, even if it's a really badly kept one. which is not so different from the other "secrets" in this game (the most prime examples being the nature of Astarion, the Faith of Shadowheart)

that body and used speak with the dead on it

Can you NOT kill the squirrel? Yes, but you need talk to animals for that to happen.

Can you NOT wake up covered in blood? No. This is a important part of the DU story and it's the only scene that happens no matter what. (Alfira or dragonborn bard have to die for the DU quest to continue and the dragonborn bard despite being fully voiced is not properly implemented. She shows up in her underwear and despite Alfira being alive certain dialogue choices treat her as dead and alive at the same time)

Can you NOT have evil/dark urges? No, its the part of the origin. (but despite what some think its just dialogue choice that you can ignore and not a forced thing)

The way I see it is that DU was meant to be the main character at one point or at least a variation of DU. (some EA datamined info implied that Tav had dark urges)

Despite Larian claiming that its a mainly evil playthrough it is not, I would even go as far to say that its more enjoyable/meant to be played as a flawed individual fighting their unknown origin and becoming a 'hero'/better person (DU origin video even implies that the character is fighting against these evil thoughts and not indulging).

But if you are someone that's looking for full freedom when it comes to designing your character (backstory/class) I would say that DU is not for you.

DU gives you a lot of freedom when it comes to roleplaying but at the end of the day you are still a Bhaalspawn amnesiac.

So if you have a unique background for your playthrough/character you should stick with Tav.

From my playthrough, playing a custom PC is absolutely the BEST way to play the game. I doubt I'll ever do an origin playthrough or DU playthrough. The trade off of having less background built into the game vs it being MY character isn't even a trade off for me. I know we've had this conversation before, but for me and others, being able to make the character our own is much more important than losing a few interactions throughout the game. Once you see the whole plot, you quickly realize that the origin interactions with the main story, while seemingly extremely important, are an illusion. SH? Not remotely needed. Gale and his "only you can save the world" line? Nope, total nonsense. Wyll? I didn't do any of his actual storyline with him in my party and got the same results. Lae'zel? The creche isn't even required for the story in the slightest.

It's all just window dressing that gives the illusion of something more, but the fact is, as a custom Tav, I WAS the most important person in the story. I made all the decisions, the origin companions followed my lead, I made the final decisions at the end of the game. If I had played as any of the origin companions, sure, I could have done similar things, but it would always be tainted by Larian's backstory for them and forced interactions. As a blank slate, Tav was 100% MINE.

I understand and completely agree with you that Larians approach to developing main characters/custom PC has been rather disappointing. But for whatever reason they insist on making companions more than they are at the expense of the PC. (Original Sin 2 being the worst in that regard.)

So in the future I do hope they take a step away from it. (I don't want to play as a companion, I want to play as my own character and I don't want that character to be a non entity that pushes other peoples stories forward.)

In regards to you seeing DU as a irredeemable? evil psycho, I'm curious as to why? Would you call the Nameless One from the Planescape Torment the same? (seeing how both of them were evil in the past/past lives)

I would agree with you if you said they were one before the whole amnesia thing seeing how they were the chosen of Bhaal and a Bhaalspawn. (also spoilers - DU is the mastermind behind the whole Absolute cult and the person that enslaved the Illithid brain before Orin ended up killing them)

But after the resurrections (first one in the DU story) the choice to be a psycho is entirely up to the player. Unlike before the betrayal where DU indulged and accepted what they were the DU after waking up on the Nautiloid is given the choice to make their own future because they are a blank slate/new person.

The urges/thoughts they experience/have are a byproduct of Bhaals corrupt blood flowing through them and they stay just that, thoughts. (if the player chooses not to act upon them)
As for the murder of the bard, Larian could've done a better job with the whole scene but again the whole thing happens because DU loses control due to the blood of Bhaal/ against their will. (and again spoilers - if u reject Bhaal in the end he kills you and drains you of your blood thus freeing you of those urges)

I wouldn't call DU a good person but at the same time I would not call them a evil psycho (again depends on the player choice) but yeah I am curious as to why you think that way.