Originally Posted by Zenith
Originally Posted by Dagless
[quote=kanisatha]This is a very interesting point. I very strongly agree, in that even if this game gives me many choices at each decision-point, for me it seens that in every instance there is only one and exactly one (if that) of those many choices that I will consider to be acceptable given my very strong good-alignment preferences. And furthermore, to get that one "good" option, I often will need to have done something else first. So even if the game in general is very nonlinear, the perfectly good playthrough *is* very linear, where you have to do certain things in the game in a fixed sequence. So, ironically, this is the one cRPG that I will necessarily have to play *only* with a really well-detailed game guide/walkthrough helping me to metagame my choices and actions.

Nah. If you've not played it yet and intend to, I would advise you not to spoil it for yourself by looking everything up in advance. Just go with your gut and make good (alignment) choices and you'll be fine.


No, he won't.

If he chooses to let Wyll become duke, Karlach dies as the only way to convince her to seek salvation and a fix in Avernus is for Wyll to take her there or you romance her. Similar "good aligned" options also end up dooming many characters. If you elect to trust the Emperor as a good character because he's given you no reason to to doubt him, you end up not pursuing the hammer and Orpheus gets his brains eaten, while Hope remains a captive in Raphael's House. Other examples also exist, like making Myreena put down her husband, even though there's hope he may be revived.

Inevitable in any game where your actions have meaningful consequences. Many people argue their aren’t enough of those as it is. I disagree with your examples (big spoilers, I advise certain people on this thread not to read):

Karlach made it clear multiple times she’d rather die than go back to Avernus. That is very sad, but still very much a good character ending. It’s not like you’re forced to murder her or anything. Just because a different outcome is possible under different circumstances doesn’t negate a highly good alignment playthrough.

It’s perfectly clear how important Orpheus is to the Githyanki. The emperor appears perfectly happy keep him prisoner forever, so I’d call that good reason to be suspicious at least (as if being an actual mindflayer wasn’t enough). After refusing Raphael’s deal (which I imagine anyone hoping for the best ending would do) Lae’zel suggests stealing it, which would seem an obvious option if only to have a backup plan at that point. Plus you need it to free Hope, and a strongly good character probably wouldn’t leave her to rot.

As for Myreena, Conner is probably a lost cause. There’s no indication that he can saved. Certainly if you do come to that conclusion, the game won’t tell you you made the wrong choice.

Regardless, would you really encourage people to spoil the entire story for themselves to get the absolutely optimal outcome, when just playing the game normally as a strongly good character would probably work out mostly the same?

Last edited by Dagless; 28/08/23 10:03 AM.