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Don´t get me wrong.
The game is great.
But some things are not perfect.
- Inventory management is a pain.
- The Tadpole story seems to be unfinished at the end. We can use dozens of them without any consequence.
- Some things in final act seem unpolished and not finished.

Game in total is great and I have a lot of fun playing it. But it is NOT perfect. The roots to become perfect are in the game. It just needs a bit additional polish, especially in act 3 and at the end.

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Originally Posted by Iviene
Don´t get me wrong.
The game is great.
But some things are not perfect.
- Inventory management is a pain.
- The Tadpole story seems to be unfinished at the end. We can use dozens of them without any consequence.
- Some things in final act seem unpolished and not finished.

Game in total is great and I have a lot of fun playing it. But it is NOT perfect. The roots to become perfect are in the game. It just needs a bit additional polish, especially in act 3 and at the end.
I find the comments on Act 3 interesting. I've spent 10-20 hours in Act 3 so far, and it blows Act 2 out of the water and is on par with Act 1 in my opinion. Then again, anything slightly better than the plot of the Shadowcursed Lands would be great for me. When are people finding the quality to fall off? Perhaps I've not hit it yet, as I'm still mostly hanging around Sorcerous Sundries, the Basilisk Gate, the Docks, and Wyrm's.


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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
I find the comments on Act 3 interesting. I've spent 10-20 hours in Act 3 so far, and it blows Act 2 out of the water and is on par with Act 1 in my opinion.

Omg, so relieved to hear you say this. I made the mistake of checking out the Steam reviews earlier this weekend and was sad to see all the Act 3 concerns.

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Originally Posted by Alle Dragonfyre
Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
I find the comments on Act 3 interesting. I've spent 10-20 hours in Act 3 so far, and it blows Act 2 out of the water and is on par with Act 1 in my opinion.

Omg, so relieved to hear you say this. I made the mistake of checking out the Steam reviews earlier this weekend and was sad to see all the Act 3 concerns.
Lmao, I'm hardly the arbiter of good taste, much as I like to think I am.

In other news, does anyone know the odds that BG3 becomes a bestselling game and outsells God of War (2018) at 23M units? It's certainly on the right path. This game will definitely be the bestselling CRPG ever, if it's not already.


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I personally think right now, a lot of the Negative articles / Strongly worded opposing opinion pieces / Trolls / complaining / ect... is just a direct slapback to the game's popularity and should almost just be accepted ( And to a certain extent ignored, players who love this game know already we won, we have this great game smile ) .

I'm still at act 1 but this game to me is a 9~10 out of 10 an worth every penny I paid. (It's not perfect, I could fill a forum of little changes I would like to see. But overall the game is great)

The game is top notch and I think, sale numbers, player count, most critic reviews, ect. already proves this and regardless of what doubters think Larian has made it's money & Fans (And then some) but all this good press creates a nice big happy elephant with a nice red target for the people above.

If BG3 was just a Meh game, 60%~70% game that made no splash and only a dedicated core of fans supported it. I bet 3/4 of these people wouldn't even bother commenting on it.

The popularity just leads to hack reviewers and "Game Journalists" to write negative review and so on, in order to capture the fringes who didn't like the game (Hey, they need representation too) and some might have a point here or there and if Larian listens some of those critiques it might help the game...

The only thing that slightly annoys me is, I think this leads to some circles to make a concerted effort to only bring Bg3 down to fit their own agenda. I mean, you didn't like, that's fine leave your 0 vote somewhere but I really think some people are just creating bots/fake accounts to spam 0's and that I think the game doesn't deserve. I think Metacritic is a prime example...

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah
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There was a post here, but it's gone now.


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Originally Posted by Watchknight
I personally think right now, a lot of the Negative articles / Strongly worded opposing opinion pieces / Trolls / complaining / ect... is just a direct slapback to the game's popularity and should almost just be accepted ( And to a certain extent ignored, players who love this game know already we won, we have this great game smile ) .

I'm still at act 1 but this game to me is a 9~10 out of 10 an worth every penny I paid. (It's not perfect, I could fill a forum of little changes I would like to see. But overall the game is great)

The game is top notch and I think, sale numbers, player count, most critic reviews, ect. already proves this and regardless of what doubters think Larian has made it's money & Fans (And then some) but all this good press creates a nice big happy elephant with a nice red target for the people above.

If BG3 was just a Meh game, 60%~70% game that made no splash and only a dedicated core of fans supported it. I bet 3/4 of these people wouldn't even bother commenting on it.

The popularity just leads to hack reviewers and "Game Journalists" to write negative review and so on, in order to capture the fringes who didn't like the game (Hey, they need representation too) and some might have a point here or there and if Larian listens some of those critiques it might help the game...

The only thing that slightly annoys me is, I think this leads to some circles to make a concerted effort to only bring Bg3 down to fit their own agenda. I mean, you didn't like, that's fine leave your 0 vote somewhere but I really think some people are just creating bots/fake accounts to spam 0's and that I think the game doesn't deserve. I think Metacritic is a prime example...

Bg3 has a 96 on metacritic, your opinion on this seems strange to me

There is no one spamming 0s

Iv not seen loads of negative articles? I guess some do?

Nearly everything is posative about bg3 (rightly so )

If you are only in act 1 your gonna feel its amazing act 1 is polished to dimond level.

I think this is my primary problem lots of players think act 2 and 3 will be the same quality

Act 2 is imo the worst natively, act 3 the buggiest feels rushed in spots, and the reactivity demnishes a whole lot

3 is better then 2, but it feels rushed compaired to act 1

And the ending feels like its got loads of cut content

Still bg3 is amazing its an insane game, i dont think feeling this way makes me a hater?

Its ok to think bg is the best and deservers nothing but praise but like you say your only on act 1, maybe when you finsh it youll feel more like i do. Maybe not who knows

But yeah nearly everyone has reviewed the game with out finshing it, thats why its getting such a great reception, imo

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Originally Posted by Xzoviac
Originally Posted by Watchknight
I personally think right now, a lot of the Negative articles / Strongly worded opposing opinion pieces / Trolls / complaining / ect... is just a direct slapback to the game's popularity and should almost just be accepted ( And to a certain extent ignored, players who love this game know already we won, we have this great game smile ) .

I'm still at act 1 but this game to me is a 9~10 out of 10 an worth every penny I paid. (It's not perfect, I could fill a forum of little changes I would like to see. But overall the game is great)

The game is top notch and I think, sale numbers, player count, most critic reviews, ect. already proves this and regardless of what doubters think Larian has made it's money & Fans (And then some) but all this good press creates a nice big happy elephant with a nice red target for the people above.

If BG3 was just a Meh game, 60%~70% game that made no splash and only a dedicated core of fans supported it. I bet 3/4 of these people wouldn't even bother commenting on it.

The popularity just leads to hack reviewers and "Game Journalists" to write negative review and so on, in order to capture the fringes who didn't like the game (Hey, they need representation too) and some might have a point here or there and if Larian listens some of those critiques it might help the game...

The only thing that slightly annoys me is, I think this leads to some circles to make a concerted effort to only bring Bg3 down to fit their own agenda. I mean, you didn't like, that's fine leave your 0 vote somewhere but I really think some people are just creating bots/fake accounts to spam 0's and that I think the game doesn't deserve. I think Metacritic is a prime example...

Bg3 has a 96 on metacritic, your opinion on this seems strange to me

There is no one spamming 0s

Iv not seen loads of negative articles? I guess some do?

Nearly everything is posative about bg3 (rightly so )

If you are only in act 1 your gonna feel its amazing act 1 is polished to dimond level.

I think this is my primary problem lots of players think act 2 and 3 will be the same quality

Act 2 is imo the worst natively, act 3 the buggiest feels rushed in spots, and the reactivity demnishes a whole lot

3 is better then 2, but it feels rushed compaired to act 1

And the ending feels like its got loads of cut content

Still bg3 is amazing its an insane game, i dont think feeling this way makes me a hater?

Its ok to think bg is the best and deservers nothing but praise but like you say your only on act 1, maybe when you finsh it youll feel more like i do. Maybe not who knows

But yeah nearly everyone has reviewed the game with out finshing it, thats why its getting such a great reception, imo


Well everyone is free to their opinons, and I don't specifically recall calling anyone haters. But there are some posts, I would qualify as made by haters or trolls being trolls. Steam forums are the best place to see them, but they also pop-up on GOG forum from time to time. If you look a Gamerants and opions pieces of forbes and places like that you see the what I consider ( Unjust/ bad articles)

Not everyone has to like the game, ex: I don't like Basketball video games I wouldn't go a Basketball NBA2K and say "Ohhhh this was the most horrible game of the year" or say "How is this trash is above Shadowrun"

As I said above, some of the feedback could be used for positive change (Ex: the inventory management or being able to bring a 5th tempoairy NPC on multiplayer) , I also heard some people mention 2 act & 3 act are less good, stuff being cut ( those people must hate Christopher Nolan movies).

I've sneaked on You Tube a bit ( I know bad habit) and saw some playthrough and I don't think there anything I saw that will take away from my overall enjoyment.

As for my metacritic comment the game was at 97% critic / 93% user on the top tier. Now it's 96% / 90% but If you look at some of the higher reviews some have only 33 critic reviews ( Versus 66 for BG3, so it's easier to be on top if you have less critic reporting) and on the the users you can easily see 10~12 scores of 0 one after the other in a block with similar explanation.

Maybe I'm a little biast but I think BG3 deserves a top 10 spot and not is the 30 something spot.

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For what it's worth, I'm absolutely loving Act 3 so far. I just got to the lower city, but it's really, really good. I agree with enjoying it more than Act 2

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I restarted the game after completing act 2 (I was overeager and rushing through content which left me discontent) and have just gotten to the early bits of act 2. I like act 2 a lot. Awesome atmosphere, cool mega dungeon, Jaheira is a badass, great sub-villain.

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Originally Posted by Warlocke
I restarted the game after completing act 2 (I was overeager and rushing through content which left me discontent) and have just gotten to the early bits of act 2. I like act 2 a lot. Awesome atmosphere, cool mega dungeon, Jaheira is a badass, great sub-villain.

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Act 2 is still awesome, I just enjoy the lively city and wilderness atmosphere more. Feels more like traditional Baldur's Gate to me smile

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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
In other news, does anyone know the odds that BG3 becomes a bestselling game and outsells God of War (2018) at 23M units? It's certainly on the right path. This game will definitely be the bestselling CRPG ever, if it's not already.
Not unless and until real and trustworthy sales numbers are available. And sorry but Steam Spy numbers do not qualify as such even in the slightest. My own estimate is that sales are around 6 M right now, and will eventually end up around 10 M. And my estimate is as good as anyone else's estimate out there right now, which is to say they all are estimates that don't have any real data behind them. <shrug>

And my final point would be that cRPG is such a hugely niche category of games with very minimal popularity such that being the "bestselling" game in that category doesn't really mean much at all. The "bestselling" cRPG is still going to be meh in sales compared with an average AAA action RPG. And since the defining characteristic of BG3 is *not* that it is a cRPG but rather that it is a AAA game, the only proper and fair way to compare it would be to compare it with other AAA RPGs. And the moment one does that, BG3's sales numbers instantly go from being amazing to being meh. I mean consider that even with all the silly fussing and whining about CP2077 at its release, that game (after all "refunds") still ended up selling 15 M in its first month! That's AAA RPG sales.

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I love act 2. The creepy horror feeling everywhere. Especially the abandoned village is great. And of course Jaheira, she is the best .
Act 3 started out nice too. I just reached the lower city.


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Originally Posted by kanisatha
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In other news, does anyone know the odds that BG3 becomes a bestselling game and outsells God of War (2018) at 23M units? It's certainly on the right path. This game will definitely be the bestselling CRPG ever, if it's not already.
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I actually was going to post something similar. Being the best CRPG by total units sold is kind of like having the best math skills in a kindergarten classroom. XD

BG3 will absolutely do very well and pull in AAA numbers. Will it hit that upper tier AAA level? (I would say that is when you exceed 15 to 20 million units sold, depending on budget) I don’t expect so, but I also didn’t expect BG3 to be so warmly received as it already has been, so who can say.

It’s so weird, BG3 and Armored Core 6, two niche series of my childhood, coming back in a big bad way. So it turns out I really was just a hipster all along and liked the popular stuff before it was cool.

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Originally Posted by Warlocke
I actually was going to post something similar. Being the best CRPG by total units sold is kind of like having the best math skills in a kindergarten classroom. XD

BG3 will absolutely do very well and pull in AAA numbers. Will it hit that upper tier AAA level? (I would say that is when you exceed 15 to 20 million units sold, depending on budget) I don’t expect so, but I also didn’t expect BG3 to be so warmly received as it already has been, so who can say.

It’s so weird, BG3 and Armored Core 6, two niche series of my childhood, coming back in a big bad way. So it turns out I really was just a hipster all along and liked the popular stuff before it was cool.
I’m thinking upper tier AAA is best case scenario but highly unlikely.


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Originally Posted by fylimar
I love act 2. The creepy horror feeling everywhere. Especially the abandoned village is great. And of course Jaheira, she is the best .
Act 3 started out nice too. I just reached the lower city.

I like a lot of the things about Act II, including the dark, creepy feeling that you mention.

The only things that stand out as "weak" points to me (in my opinion) are:

1. Not enough Ketheric. I wanted to talk to him more.

2. I hate to say it, but I just didn't care about Thaniel. It was more of a hoop to jump through than something that captured me.

3. I just stumbled across certain NPCs, like the large drunk and the toll collector. Would have preferred some lead up, some commentary about them and their history. Maybe that's in Act II somewhere, but I didn't notice it.

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I love act 2. The creepy horror feeling everywhere. Especially the abandoned village is great. And of course Jaheira, she is the best .
Act 3 started out nice too. I just reached the lower city.

I like a lot of the things about Act II, including the dark, creepy feeling that you mention.

The only things that stand out as "weak" points to me (in my opinion) are:

1. Not enough Ketheric. I wanted to talk to him more.

2. I hate to say it, but I just didn't care about Thaniel. It was more of a hoop to jump through than something that captured me.

3. I just stumbled across certain NPCs, like the large drunk and the toll collector. Would have preferred some lead up, some commentary about them and their history. Maybe that's in Act II somewhere, but I didn't notice it.
For me, points 1 and 3 tie together. EVERY member of the Thorm family needed more buildup and screen time and lines, including a certain someone who you meet later who isn’t a Thorm but “married” into them.


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