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If I pick a pocket how does disguise help?

I've tried disguising in a different area, going to town and pickpocket a person, then move far away, Remove the disguise, and if I return I get accused of pickpocketing and go to jail.

I've also tried doing the pickpocket, then disguising, and they still want to toss me in prison.

I thought that disguise was supposed to hide your identity so the victim would not be looking for you, since you look like an orc and no a human, or whatever.

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Well, you forgot that you have this magic ID, so even when disguised the world still know who you are.


Sad fact is that certain things just wasn't implemented, disguise can give you access to some racial dialog options and in one case allow you to walk through somewhere that a larger body type couldn't enter.

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I don’t think it does.
I took Disguise Self as my racial ability and have been somewhat disappointed with its utility. It should matter with things like crime, infiltration, scrying eyes, and story moments but it doesn’t. I only use it when I use speak with dead on people I killed, afaik


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The only use I found for "Disguise Self" was changing the appearance of the ugly hirelings for aesthetic reasons... A lot of spells in the game just doesn't seem to have any real usefulness, even in areas where they should have

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Originally Posted by Lyzrl
The only use I found for "Disguise Self" was changing the appearance of the ugly hirelings for aesthetic reasons... A lot of spells in the game just doesn't seem to have any real usefulness, even in areas where they should have

If you murder somebody and then cast speak with the dead on them to interrogate them they will often say that they are not willing to speak to their killer. Rarely, you can pass a persuasion check to talk to them anyway, but usually it fails. However, if you cast disguise self first then they will answer questions with gusto.

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There is a certain ring in the game
that gives 1d4 bonus to all checks while shapeshifted or in disguise. Literally all; so it works like an extra Guidance that stacks with everything else
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When I first found it, I've noticed a bug: a disguised character who tried to steal items lying on the ground didn't roll any Stealth checks when NPC started to run around looking for thieves. The char wasn't invisible, she didn't break out of stealth, she was just crouching there, while NPC was all over the place.
However, I can't reproduce it anymore, so either it was fixed, or it was a transient issue caused by some weird alignment of stars.

Still, adds quite a bit of utility (the ring, I mean).

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Originally Posted by Lyzrl
The only use I found for "Disguise Self" was changing the appearance of the ugly hirelings for aesthetic reasons... A lot of spells in the game just doesn't seem to have any real usefulness, even in areas where they should have

If you murder somebody and then cast speak with the dead on them to interrogate them they will often say that they are not willing to speak to their killer. Rarely, you can pass a persuasion check to talk to them anyway, but usually it fails. However, if you cast disguise self first then they will answer questions with gusto.
I'd forgotten that disguise self works with speaking to the dead. It's just odd that the game will have an NPC just start talking to you as if it knows you, when you are disguised as a completely different person.

I know that the game needs to interact with the main character from time to time, for the story plots. And if the game does not talk to you, it could cause real issues with parts of the game. But if the game really needs for particular NPCs to interact with you, to make the game work, the game could have a cut scene where the NPC approaches you, and starts the dialogue, but then says "Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were someone else," and then the games narrator can say something to the effect that it's advisable that you drop your disguise to see what this person has to say.

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Hmm - Amazing! I've never tried that! Will definitely try it out as I love speaking to all the dead, and it's annoying when they refuse just because you just killed - I mean: come on.

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Originally Posted by Lyzrl
Hmm - Amazing! I've never tried that! Will definitely try it out as I love speaking to all the dead, and it's annoying when they refuse just because you just killed - I mean: come on.
Yup, talk about holding on to a grudge, even after you're dead? wink

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If you are disguised you can use racial conversion options and get racial weapon abilities it's actually very powerful

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Originally Posted by Mouthbreathereli
If you are disguised you can use racial conversion options and get racial weapon abilities it's actually very powerful
You can also disguise your paladin if
you know ahead of time that your next encounter might break your vow. A disguised paladin will not get visited by the oath breaker

But the one thing disguise is supposed to do, make you look NOT like that guy that just pick pocketed you, that's what disguise isn't doing. frown

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Yes, disguise spell works for a lot of thing, but not for the most obvious one : not being recognized after changing appareance, especially just after a crime.

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disguise as a drow for the
goblin camp.

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Originally Posted by Imora DalSyn
disguise as a drow for the
goblin camp.
Yes, that is a good use of it. Disguise does work for many practices and uses, just wish it made it so people did not recognize you. And as I said above, if the game needs to have an NPC recognize you, the narrator can say something like "now would be a good time to dispel your disguise."

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