Originally Posted by dumpy
Killing people is also horrible violation of personal autonomy,
though I personally don't believe the emperor actually enthralled stelmane anyway, its simply to demonstrate it is within the realms of possibility he hasn't lied to the pc, as he saids.
You're missing the point.

The point isn't that violating someone's personal autonomy in that way is morally bad (even though it obviously is). The point is that you cannot call someone a friend while at the same time mind controlling them to do what you want against their will. That's just not what the word friendship means. What are you even trying to say? Is this supposed to be a semantic argument that he could have viewed his relationship with Stelmane as a friendship because he was sentimental about his mind-slave so it's not a lie based on this technicality? Because that is very silly. We even know that Stelmane struggled to resist the Emperor and regain her will. There's simply no way the Emperor could conceive of this relationship as a friendship in any meaningful way and if he does then it's basically just proof of a very sick and degenerate mind. The dynamic of their relationship is that she is his slave and he is her master. That is not a friendship and it doesn't magically turn into one just because he's enslaved her for a very long time.

Last edited by Nerovar; 02/09/23 12:49 PM.