Okay folks, let's turn the heat down and accept that we are all entitled to our different perspectives without insulting or imputing bad motives to folk who disagree with us. And that applies to people arguing both sides of this question.

It's clearly a topic that can get people emotional and worked up, so let's all try to do our bit to keep the discussion friendly, constructive and welcoming of contrasting viewpoints. We can disagree and still keep things civil.

"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"