Originally Posted by Surge90sf
That is.. So much better than what we got..

I also touch briefly on this plot point in my thread over here : https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=892461#Post892461
Though less eloquently and more frustratingly..

And if I may add on to the theory you have. I dislike Larian nullifying the character I made. So, what if Daisy is actually a real person. Used by the Netherbrain as a means to influence you. " A middle girl?" Seeing as an Illithid is not like a real person it would make sense that in order to tempt you they would have to find a way to make you relate. And you get the chance to free her at some point, maybe? Maybe you can see signs of her breaking free temporarily from the Netherbrain?

And if I may just add, I really dont like the emperor character. Taking an inherently evil creature and trying to convince us this is some kind of moral enlightenment journey or whatever. I love complex stories, but please leave something, black and white. Though I got the scene where he admits to mindcontrolling people and he calls you his puppet. But then all of a sudden he acts like the benevolent character for the rest of the game. No idea if this is bugged or badly executed.

That is my take.

I feel like Daisy would've been more than a mere illusion, just given the romantic nature of the theme songs and some of the specific lyrics implies a sense of mutual change.

"We'd pick our way, overhear more in changing
You into me and me into you
I meant to say that I love you or maybe
Fear like a flame, what's happening to me?"

As for the Emperor, the infamous scene where he admits to being a monster is more complicated than people give it credit for. The big thing to remember is that, at that point, the Emperor is getting exasperated with the player. The discussion is, basically, paraphrased:

"I don't trust you."
"What if I show you my thoughts, will you trust me then?"
"I'll never believe anything you show me."

So... why does the Emperor show you something heinous? Because he's provoking you. He shows you something bad and the player, after saying they won't believe him, probably leap on the 'I knew it! You're a monster!' answer and, yes, then the Emperor basically has an exasperated tantrum. But he's right, too. He could just mind control you and make you do what he wants. But he doesn't. He goes out of his way to not do that. If you pull a dog's tail for weeks, and it barks at you, is it a monster? Or should you have known better?

There are other tidbits that hint that the version of events he reveals is not true, such as Stelmane apparently living a pretty okay life after the "Mind Flayer attack", and that the Knights of the Shield were apparently a devil-worshipping group.