Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Strong Condemnation: Baldur's Gate III MAC Version Delay

Yeah, I get it. Just, keep it to a single thread, will you?

I haven’t started any threads.

Completely irrevelant.
There are TONS of amazing games on mac. One of the best RPGs of the decade, Disco Elysium, works flawlessly. Pathfinder WOTR works perfect. I have Hades, Hollow Knight all the great indie goodies working with no issues. DOS2, PoE, Deadfire are ported. You can make Windows games work fine on macs via Wineskin. Tons of reasons to play on their portable M1/M2 line-up. There are incredibly efficient (superb battery life for great performance, stays cool and the display rocks).
Stop making this into a "your the minority, bite the bullet and be happy its coming.."

Larian decided to port the game, got and EA out and a release date.
No freakin excuses. I couldn't care less on WHAT the game was ported too.

I play BG3 on a desktop PC. But I also want to play BG3 on my portable M1 macbook pro max when I travel.

None of these games you mention take any resources on hardware, though, they'll work on anything, which is why they can be easily modified to work on Mac. BG3, on the other hand, most certainly does take hardware resources. If it needs to look anything like you'd expect, there is a serious issue of making it work on the average Mac. And that's the thing. There's no point in making it available for the million-dollar UltrApple, if it only sells two copies. It needs to work and be reasonably received on the average one. Which is more or less the same price as the average pc, but with half the specs.

It should work on any Mac that meets the requirement specs:

MINIMUM:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: macOS 10.15.6
Processor: 2.6GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon460 4GB
Storage: 150 GB available space
Additional Notes: Minimum specs can run the game on low to medium settings. To meet minimum specs, you'll need a MacBook Pro 15 inch from 2016 or newer, with the above mentioned GPU. Or, a MacBook Pro 13 inch from 2018 or newer. M1 Chip requirements: MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, or Mac mini with Apple M1 chip and 8GB of RAM. SSD recommended.
RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: macOS 10.15.7
Processor: 2.3GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 8GB
Storage: 150 GB available space
Additional Notes: Recommended specs can run the game on high or ultra settings. You'll meet recommended specs if you have a MacBook Pro 15 inch or 16 inch from 2019 and upwith the above mentioned GPU. An iMac from 2017 or newer will also pull it off. M1 Chip requirements: MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, or Mac mini with Apple M1 chip and 16GB of RAM.SSD recommended.

Pathfinder wrath of the righteous is definitely not a game that doesn’t “take any resources”, and there are plenty of Mac games that are resource intensive like resident evil village, no man’s sky, and …Baldur’s Gate 3 early access!

But it doesn’t matter at all if you think Mac’s aren’t for higher end games. It only matters that they haven’t communicated regarding something that people have already paid for.

Imagine you bought a blue car, pre-paid in full, the other colored cars arrive to their new owners on time, but you get ignored when you ask where your blue car is. Then people on the internet say “No one drives blue cars, you should just be patient and be glad blue is an option.”

I don't want to be an angry Mac user, I don't care and will wait for the game. And that's that. Does it arrive first before the others? I do not care. Here the matter is a little more complex... Larian, like any other company, has PR and social media managers. Who regularly check the Forum and are responsible for communicating with customers and users... So, since we Mac users are causing a lot of annoyance, to the point that the PS5 launch posts are becoming "where is the Mac version??" so maybe they should get moving and make a clear, quick and precise statement on what they are doing on the missing platforms... And I say this because we Mac users are still in EA right?? so here's how you did it for everyone while you were at EA, involve those who are still at EA to understand the status of the work, right?? Larian take 30 minutes to write something structured to the Mac community and also Xbox about the state of things. Because until proven otherwise you are selling an EA game on Steam that is undeniably presented as finished... and you are wrong about this... it is misleading... so correct this aspect on Steam.

The condescension and gate-keeping is a bit much.

Not a Mac user for games but I have a lot of sympathy here. The lack of transparency and communication regarding the misleading Steam information and continued lack of release is a bad look. Larian didn't have to make a Mac release, but they said they would and they need to live up to their promises.

I have enough sympathy for one thread on the subject, but starting mass numbers of threads is bad form. All it does is harm the experience of the posters here, who have nothing to do with when the game releases on Mac.

If there's one thread, I do hope that Larian sees it and acknowledges your concerns. I feel like they will probably make an announcement about the Mac release soon, although I know how frustrating it can be while waiting.

Anyway, I sincerely wish you the best, but please, let's try to keep it to one thread.

The deplay is acceptable, but the lack of communication is not.

make sense considering they showed the game during previous event.

For Pathfinder WoTr and mid to max settings I get near 60fps, running cool, beautiful 16 inch screen, 4 HOURS playtime on my M1 max Macbookpro (oh and its not even optimized for apple silicon), a nearly 5 year old laptop (10 hours battery for non gaming stuff).

What do you get on your windows laptop I wonder. A bit more FPS but for 90 minutes playtime and burned laps and fans going nuts? And non gaming, what, 2 hours tops? lol

When I'm travelling, Im not bringing my PC desktop and PC notebooks are shit if not plugged in. 120FPS means nothing if you can just play 1 hour with burned laps and palms running ventilators full blast.

Its not iPhone event anymore

[img]https://imgur.com/a/Q8ojOuJ[/img]

Just opinion but i will be not surprised if it's apple fault. I remember when apple dropped support for OpenGL, and arenanet make announcement that macos client support will be dropped because of this. What was funny in this story is, people blamed anet, not apple - which is irrational. Before you blame someone, think twice. Also, releasing software on mac is pain and their requirements are pure joke. Chill.

We don't know full story so i encourage empathy and patience. Some things may be out of their control.

Larian have been selling an early access version of the game to people believing they are buying the full game for over a month.

They still haven’t amended the Steam and GOG store pages to make it clear that the Mac version is not complete.

This is wrong. Trade description laws exist for a reason.

So, for you it's okay to judge stuff you have no insight?
Btw. have you read EULA? speaking of law.

Here’s my “insight”:
I go to the Steam store page, I see that BG3 is available for PC and Mac, I see the Mac system requirements, I see the release data of 3rd August and I see a big green button to fork over cash for a game with no indication that it’s still in Early Access.

How is that acceptable?

I’ve never broken an EULA, what does that have to do with anything?

... and you don't blame steam for not updating information in their own app?

Of course I don’t. It’s the developer/publisher who manages the content on their pages using Steamworks and it’s their responsibility to ensure that it’s accurate.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/gettingstarted

Valve don’t write the descriptions, upload images and videos, manage DLC etc for every game on the site. There’s over 50000 of them. It just wouldn’t work.

You seem very keen to absolve Larian of all responsibility for this.

Ok, in case of handling content i may be wrong.
On the other hand, i may say the same about you and apple in case of responsibility? Or you just needs to release rage somewhere?
If you read EULA, you will find they CAN DELAY. No matter if you like it or not.