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Okay, so this is coming from someone who both played 5e tabletop and has got over 100 hours in BG 3, both EA and full release.
And after playing through the game multiple times, I can say that the current implementation is dreadful for anyone not fully abusing the mechanics and broken combos of items, classes, etc.
Sure, you can win the game without needing any of those, but it doesn’t solve the problems that were introduced by the implementation. Some notable cases:
-Tavern Brawler doubling chance to hit and damage -Multiple procs of the same damage, like Eldritch Blast getting multiplied from Hex and magic items. A single cantrip dealing 40 damage per beam with multiple available. -The concept of Conservation of resources doesn't exist in this game. It’s literally better to long rest after every fight and going full nova. -Some multiclassess being overpowered beyond belief. -Powerful magic items are everywhere and make most of them nothing more but a vendor trash.
When a paladin can get an auto crit and deal 300+ damage in a single turn, Sorcerer has got a DC of 22, this leads to ever tankier bossess and massive power creep.
To put into comparison with 5e tabletop:
-A level 12 fighter, Samurai archetype with elven accuracy, Sharphshooter and 20 Dex is one of the most optimized builds for archery. Let’s assume they will use +3 longbow.
With haste and action surge, they can attack 7 times, assuming the arrows all hit they deal 7d8 + 56 + 70 damage, about 160 damage. Powerful, but completely dwarfed by builds who can solo Raphael in a turn or two.
There is no easy solution. The amount of interactions with magic items, being able to use bonus action with hand crossbows for extra attacks, supplies and lack of restrictions on camping, etc. It is simply not possible to turn into less of a nova strike, without some major changes.
And before someone yells at me, 'don’t like it, don’t use it', that's not the point. It hurts the game overall, when the devs must implement something like 'Unstoppable' on bossess, so they don't immediately die. I don't expect a single Player game to be perfectly balanced, in fact, they shouldn’t be.
However, I firmly believe that this is too much. Making powerful builds is fine, everyone does that and it's part of the fun. But, tabletop wasn’t balanced around this kind of power or interactions. And translating it directly into a game, without thinking why things worked the way they did in tabletop lead to some questionable design choices.
I am not asking for some crazy overhaul of the game, but tuning down some of the interactions and magic powers would go a long way of fixing at least some of the problems the game has got right now.
But that’s just my opinion, what about you?
Last edited by Annoyed Player; 09/09/23 04:04 AM. Reason: Typos
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