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Ok, I just want to say I too was caught unaware I was actually purchasing an EA game because I have a Mac, personally I wouldn't have minded if I was told and would have purchased it anyway, but I do find myself continually searching these forums and hoping for some information, any information with some actual substance over the Mac release.

One thing I will say though is that I'm not mad to be made to wait for what I thought was a full game when I purchased it, but if it is related to the Apple event on 12th, and the Mac release is seemingly delayed for that alone, that would be poor form.

Though I will end this saying I purchased a full Release version of the game for the Mac according to the BG3 steam store page, so there are all those dang pesky expectations Larian should expect me to have.

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Originally Posted by necrosrc
Originally Posted by Dagless
Originally Posted by necrosrc
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Here’s my “insight”:
I go to the Steam store page

... and you don't blame steam for not updating information in their own app?

Of course I don’t. It’s the developer/publisher who manages the content on their pages using Steamworks and it’s their responsibility to ensure that it’s accurate.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/gettingstarted

Valve don’t write the descriptions, upload images and videos, manage DLC etc for every game on the site. There’s over 50000 of them. It just wouldn’t work.

You seem very keen to absolve Larian of all responsibility for this.

Ok, in case of handling content i may be wrong.
On the other hand, i may say the same about you and apple in case of responsibility? Or you just needs to release rage somewhere?
If you read EULA, you will find they CAN DELAY. No matter if you like it or not.

You mean this (my emphasis for the bold text)?

8. CHANGES TO THE GAME AND SERVICE

You agree that Larian Studios may change, modify, suspend, delay, limit, nerf, discontinue or restrict any aspect of the Game or Service, or your access to the Game or Service, including without limitation, any features or content of the Game or Service, and any hours of availability, content, data, software or equipment needed to access the Game or the Service, at any time. Larian Studios will notify you of such changes to the extent reasonably possible.


I have no more rage than people complaining that the story wasn’t everything they’d hoped it would be or all the other complaints we see round here. But unlike all that, this should be a literal 5 min job to fix. Just get someone with admin rights to log onto the page, and add a sentence or two somewhere prominent to explain that the native Mac version is still in early access. That’s it!

It’s a legitimate grievance with a ridiculously simple solution. It was probably just a simple oversight, but they can and should just fix it, immediately.

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Originally Posted by Dagless
You mean this (my emphasis for the bold text)?

8. CHANGES TO THE GAME AND SERVICE

You agree that Larian Studios may change, modify, suspend, delay, limit, nerf, discontinue or restrict any aspect of the Game or Service, or your access to the Game or Service, including without limitation, any features or content of the Game or Service, and any hours of availability, content, data, software or equipment needed to access the Game or the Service, at any time. Larian Studios will notify you of such changes to the extent reasonably possible.


I have no more rage than people complaining that the story wasn’t everything they’d hoped it would be or all the other complaints we see round here. But unlike all that, this should be a literal 5 min job to fix. Just get someone with admin rights to log onto the page, and add a sentence or two somewhere prominent to explain that the native Mac version is still in early access. That’s it!

It’s a legitimate grievance with a ridiculously simple solution. It was probably just a simple oversight, but they can and should just fix it, immediately.

Just in case i was misunderstood...
Everything i said about OpenGL and Apple is a fact.
I said we don't know full story, so also the reason why delay happen - that's why i encourage patience and empathy.
Saying that it may be apple fault - it's assumption, i don't say it's a fact.

Maybe i should say sorry to you, because i realized you only cared about that fix in info page? is this correct?

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Originally Posted by necrosrc
Just in case i was misunderstood...
Everything i said about OpenGL and Apple is a fact.
I said we don't know full story, so also the reason why delay happen - that's why i encourage patience and empathy.
Saying that it may be apple fault - it's assumption, i don't say it's a fact.

Maybe i should say sorry to you, because i realized you only cared about that fix in info page? is this correct?

No need to apologize to me, I probably should have been more clear. I have no idea what system architecture nonsense Apple has that could make things harder. But most Mac users don’t seem too bothered by the fact it’s coming a bit later. I see two related issues:

1) Incorrect information at point of purchase causing people to buy a game they thought was finished and only discovering it’s still in early access once they’ve installed it. (An example above).
2) Lack of communication on when it will be fully released. They waited until it actually got to the target date they’d previously given to say it would be later. Not great PR at all. This is even more important given there are people who didn’t even realize they were buying an early access version

It’s the things that do appear to be under Larian’s control that are causing a backlash.

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Originally Posted by Dagless
No need to apologize to me

I only hope you don't took my words too personally and i didn't had bad intention. No matter how my day was etc. it's not excuse. I'm sorry.
Have a nice day!

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Larian will definitely be looking at this forum. We all know you're working on the Mac version. Take your time. But could you Kindly Put a notice on Steam at least for those who are buying the Mac version thinking it's finished??? Not everyone browses forums and Twitter...c'mon! what a terrible fall in style this lack... Think about it: with all the hype your fantastic game is making, many Mac users are also starting to become curious... if they see it's available they buy it... and then when they find out that isn't finished they come here to complain...up up up

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Originally Posted by necrosrc
Originally Posted by Dagless
No need to apologize to me

I only hope you don't took my words too personally and i didn't had bad intention. No matter how my day was etc. it's not excuse. I'm sorry.
Have a nice day!

Nah, having blazing rows that probably wouldn’t happen in a real conversation is just the Internet.

I’m just not sure that everyone really gets why Mac users are suddenly kicking up a bit of a fuss.

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I have two friends, only uses mac, are now just FUMING right now because they bought the game on GOG due to all the hype and amazing reviews. And discovered its an EA version...
They don't deal with social media much, but knew release was like the PS5 on the 6th.

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It just reminded me of the bowl of goat's milk that old Winthrop used to put outside his door every evening for the dust demons. He said the dust demons could never resist goat's milk, and that they would always drink themselves into a stupor and then be too tired to enter his room..
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It just reminded me of the bowl of goat's milk that old Winthrop used to put outside his door every evening for the dust demons. He said the dust demons could never resist goat's milk, and that they would always drink themselves into a stupor and then be too tired to enter his room..
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how many people buy a MAC though?

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What I love that Larian did is not delay the PC Launch for other platforms. To many devs will delay a launch to hit all the platforms at once. Larian said screw that an is launching as each become ready. No more waiting because certification for a console hit a small snag.

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Originally Posted by machinus
how many people buy a MAC though?
STRONG CONDEMNATION


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