Originally Posted by WizardGnome
Originally Posted by Surge90sf
Originally Posted by Cpagrav
Originally Posted by GladeusExMachina
For this one, I'm 100% sure you get a very small dialogue option with Orpheus, who will dismiss it because he doesn't trust you, and doesn't know what the Netherese Orb is. I think you need Gale in the party, talking with Gale within the Astral Prism isn't necessary

Should this have been a completely viable option? Probably, yes. Its one of the moments where a high difficulty persuasion check would have been highly appropriate, but Larian really didn't want it to be a true option.

Yes that's the problem: Mindflayer or mindflayer?

Originally Posted by Cpagrav
- Withers: why?
- Ghithyanki people arc
Originally Posted by GladeusExMachina
Both of these are likely to create hype for a definitive edition, or a sequel.

I am not that optimistic to be honest: They have too much to fix to add a lot of new content, while a sequel... well by the time they make it everyone would have forgotten this forgettable main story so any BG4 would probably start fresh.

You do realize if we let them get away with the current state of the game, we will just get an unfinished mess with bg4 as well? If they don't fix this game then we might as well jump ship on Larian forever.

Well, first, I think we need to take a step back. BG4 is nowhere near on the horizon, and we don't even know if Larian would be interested in making it to begin with.

However, this kind of gets at something I've been thinking about myself. I've said before that while BG3 is the game that I think has some of of the best gameplay Larian has ever made, it is also the game that convinced me to never buy Larian games on release ever again.

But I said that ASSUMING they'd eventually do work to fix up the final act. But like, what if they just don't? What if the final act just remains bad...? What if the fixes are all performance issues and bugfixes, etc. but it remains for the most part as it is?


IMO if they fix it, fix all of it, including narrative problems. I could not careless if I have to pay another 50 euro( or whatever currency you use). Because that would be a true masterpiece.

If it remains this way well, this is my first and last Larian game. I don't have time to play RPGs for weeks anymore, and I would rather spend it on a finished product. I want to start another playthrough so bad. But the way the plot is forcing you to have a tadpole in your head for the entire game is ridiculous and annoying(any sane humanoid would not rest a second until that thing is gone), and I cannot sit through another 80 hours of the Emperor pulling the strings without me having a say in what happens. You have Mystra, Elminster, Raphael, creches, even Mizora and a million other solutions and you are FORCED to just nod along like an idiot until you end up at choose X squid. At the very least give us a logical sequence of events.

Let me be clear, the game is brilliant in many regards, otherwise I would not be here caring so much about giving feedback. I would pay another 100 euro for what this game will be if they fix the problems. I would have to wait at least 10 years for another RPG game to come close to this. The genre has been lacking in options for a long time. Can't even say we have had a proper next gen RPG until this game came along.

*Edit* And who is going to by an entire definitive edition for an unfinished game with some bug fixes?

Last edited by Surge90sf; 13/09/23 10:15 PM.