Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion [END SPOILS WARNING] Addressing Karlach (PLEASE PUT SPOILERS IN TAGS)

I haven't seen any new dialogue other than maybe this, "My engine is getting really hot" something along those lines with some extra wording.

It was a random interaction during Act 2 I believe maybe even 3?

What lines are people referring to exactly? Does anyone have the actual lines?

Karlach suffers from a lack of content in general. Again, you might be reading too much into it.

Larian would have to ignore an ENORMOUS amount of lore and current items and people in the game to double down.

But to what purpose do they need to ignore the numerous hints of a good ending for Karlach in Act 3? Do they hate her and want her to die or go back to hell? Which she just emerged from being emotionally unstable?

Because changing her ending takes time.

It's not just add one quest. You have to add it in the right place to make sure her emotional beats still hit. You also have to completely change her epilogues which can cause issues with other epilogues firing.

Care to provide source of an actual interview? Because unless I listened to some other Pax interview, there is no mention of a new ending being produced, so I smell bullshit

Their original vision was to ignore the obvious answers and keep their "it's the hope that kills" way of storytelling. I do have a feeling that the cigare scene is all they're willing to budge. It's sad, but it's their story and they can do whatever they want.

Well if they gonna just ignore us, then I hope nobody will be surprised when people start becoming toxic. Because what happened on patch 2 is just drama waiting to happen

I think the new dialogs doesn't proof anything. I think these are consequences of "quick hotfix", quicky adding something to help us undestand her conditions. But as Tav (especially in romance) wants to save her, her overheating and desperation should double his effort. And here is the thing - he cannot, is not allowed. There are several ways how to fix it. They forbid us to save her adding dialogs to all cure possibilities (Gondians will tell you "Sorry we cannot help her because something....").Then the returing to avernus with Tav will be maybe really the only "Good" ending. Or They will allow to help her and rework the story and this will be the really Good ending. Or they will have completely new ideas how to tell her story and we will be suprised. And last one - they will do nothing....

yeah im not seeing it as them *doubling down* I still believe it was a bandaid solution/attempt to at the very least give ppl who invested in her some sort of ending that didnt feel so...god damn awful. and based on the leaks there was alot of ideas thrown around for her so i dont think his was their intent on her story from the get go, I think its what they settled on with the time they had. So im of the mind Larian wont leave us in the dust and give us a way to truly *fix* her and have her stay. I mean look at this thread? its generating a new page every 2 or 3 days? if not sooner with the vast majority of us voicing the need to give her a better ending better content and that patch 2 (while again i must say larian I apricate the effort that was made to even do that ending scene) was still not what we want. nor is it what should be settled on as the only other option for karlach.

plus in my honest opinion the way the community has supported the game and how it blew larians expectations out of the water in terms of player count and sales, larian seems like a company who would take some of that influx of revenue and really polish up/fix/add content to their game as a thank you to their player base.

Actually it is. Just let us go where Steel Watcher tells us and boom, job done we are happy and we are no longer being annoying

So I think there is something cooking up - Patch 2 was relesed os September 3, and the interview was relesed september 8th, and Swen said about Karlach:
"We said okay, let�s give an updated ending.
An optional ending, because they are all the other ones for Karlach."

And that was in My opinion about Patch 2 content they added.

But then he said:

"So we are adding in extra epilogue stuff. It�s actually underway." - that is said after releasing Patch 2 epilog stuff, so I think They might actualy doing something

By looking how this thread grows, and Larian being known to listen to community - I have good feeling

Then what else it is? We didn't have depressed Karlach waiting to die before patch 2, they specifically added it to justify their horrible "ending she deserves". No matter what Nessius or anyone else claims, there is no reason to believe otherwise because that's the only thing Larian said so far. If we actually get something, be it quick statement or anything basically, sure, maybe we can calm down. But for now there is no reason to

Well you better be right because as for now it looks like they are doing everything to justify this trash ending. Sorry it's just trash I simply will not forget the "we did everything we could for Karlach"

"Thank you from the fiery infernal engine we keep in place of our heart. We couldn't have asked for a better response to Baldur's Gate 3.
Patch 3 is coming September 21 with full support for BG3 on Mac."

From Larian's official Twitter account. I feel like they're just fucking with us at this point lmao.

What did we do to earn this ;_;

First Berserk, now this. Am I just attracted to mental abuse?

Well, folks. I hope this is not just another poor choice of words

Actually now that I�ve let it sit for a bit, this could just be a random metaphor and it doesn�t really aim to hint at something specific. I guess we shall see on the 21st. What do you guys think?

I was joking, I don't really expect them to have a fully finished Karlach questline and ending not even two months after launch, especially since they already said they're currently working on epilogues. I just thought it was funny.

EDIT: Just to expand on this, given the fact that Larian rarely tells us what they're working on, I don't think we'll know when Karlach's new questline and ending will be patched in until they're finished with what they're currently working on, which right now appears to be general epilogues for every character.

Well, since they have infernal engines for hearts, they have to go to Avernus too with us. Sorry Larian, the rules are the rules, don�t blame the player, blame the game lmao

I get cha, but like i said i think its a bandaid solution to just give karlach fans something in the mean time (i still find it hard to complete another playthrough currently though) and to be clear I am in no way saying we should *calm down* raise hell and be loud! i just think we should do it in a respectful manner as larian has shown they value community feedback and actually do some big changes to their games post launch because of player feedback its perfectly reasonable criticize a game like bg3 for its shortfalls but we should be mindful to also share that 95% of the game is damn near flawless. imo anyway, most fun ive had in a game rpg or otherwise in years which is why the endings and karlachs lack of content/ endings really bites for me cause its stopping me from wanting to replay the amazing story they have worked hard to create. So i will keep posting for changes to the endings and giving karlach more fullfilling content just in a positive light:)