Originally Posted by RutgerF
Originally Posted by Blackheifer
I mean, I think calling Starfield a "new" IP is pretty laughable. What? How is it a new IP? What new concepts is it introducing? Factions in future space humans and exploration? Totally derivative. Those guys spent at least a hundred million on a totally ineffective marketing campaign.
My point still stands. Be it "no IP" or "new IP", the marketing will be pretty much the same for both, because developers have nothing to piggyback on. Larian, on their other hand, has a veritable 4 of a kind called Baldur's Gate.
Comparing their marketing strategies, or outcomes of their marketing campaigns makes zero sense.

Ok, it's clear you don't have a legal background. IP stands for intellectual Property, I will assume you know that at least. The only IP they could claim is the title. Everything else is derivative.

You also don't understand how Larian marketed the game versus how Bethesda marketed.

Originally Posted by RutgerF
Originally Posted by Blackheifer
A "No homebrew" or "core rules" mod would be "additional content" - that's not a bug.
No, this is not new content. These are changes in game's mechanics. And I'm pretty sure there are people who would consider many original implementations as bugs. Just as an example, if some modder will change the behaviour of CC spells so that saves won't be made both at the start and end of turn, that would be a bugfix. I'm not watching the BG3 modding scene now, maybe someone has already done this, or something similar.

You are moving goalposts, the point was the mod community isn't fixing bugs for BG3. The Mod community is fixing bugs for Starfield.



Originally Posted by RutgerF
Originally Posted by Blackheifer
Both companies have a President that has ultimate say in decisions. The difference between Horizontal and Vertical is the layers of management between that president.
My point was that I don't see any signs that Larian has a horizontal structure. It's too big, and some design decisions look pretty voluntaristic to me.
Not sure why you think it has.

Again, A horizontal structure is determined how little management is between the employees and the CEO. A vertical structure incorporates multiple layers.

It's pretty clear you didn't actually look at the management structures of both companies - but I did. You can do some basic google searches and it will show you that Larian has VERY little management and Bethesda has a ton of it.

I want to invite you to stop. I keep bringing facts and you keep bringing opinions and you are making poor arguments. I've proven the point that these are VASTLY different companies with massive differences in process which partially explains why Bg3 is such a goddamn brilliant success and why Starfield is THE most aggressively mediocre game I have ever experienced and that Bethesda should be ashamed of themselves.

Last edited by Blackheifer; 14/09/23 03:09 PM.

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