Originally Posted by Tharrow
I like that in this romance, we can, in a certain playthrough (spoilers for Halsin ending)
send him off with WAGON-LOADS OF KIDS. S:DLfk;as I'm not fucking normal about it at alllll actually I want us to pile on even MORE. He says he's wanted family, this ending is SO happy for him!! I LOVE that the player/player character can work the system to bring about this ending that absolutely buries him in tiny tots. It's SO GOOD. It perfectly dodges the issue of the player character being involved physically in giving him kids since he yearns for family so ofc I'm like, ok dude I Will Provide. I don't have to think about, ok is this PC going to get pregnant? I, the player, can give him kids with my gameplay. And it will be really hard for me to do a playthrough where I don't do this for him lol. And my player character is responsible for those kids being in his life, so it's like my PC, whether or not I make them able to carry a pregnancy or not, can give him this bevy of kids (by making the decisions to get there ofc)!! I fucking love it. I'm abnormal over it actually. it's so smart. Feral, screaming, vibrating, etc. In future content I want even more. More! More! More kids for Halsin, it's not enough! The wagons weren't enough!!! If we get dlc there better be another wagon of kids to bring to Halsin! #1 BIG DADDY!!! I love himmm I love him lol he's amazing. I forget who it was who posted this, I'm really sorry, I hope I find you again, but they said: Our PC should have all the lines about being able to tell him he will be an amazing father. Yes yes yes yes yes! I haven't got to this dialogue if it's already in the game, and if there's nothing like it, this is what I'm begging for! And getting to squee with him about how he'll have the best time with all his kids, and later getting to hear him gush/complain/reflect about being a dad and all the lessons it brings. Dude ahhhh AHHHHHH to me this is his good ending, it fills my heart to bursting with joy. And we do that! If player character didn't make the decisions to get to that ending, it doesn't happen for him. I will work for it, I will do it for him!!!

Yes it is nice that he can return to Thaniels land starting to take over a leadership role, helping/raising these children.... sure, agreed.

BUT - why is there no option to tell him that we like to go with him RIGHT NOW? He even says earlier in the game he hopes that you BOTH can one day return to Thaniels land. If they had just given an option for Tav/player to tell him you don't have anything else to do and will come right now with him and rebuild/raise children WITH HIM it would have been SO MUCH BETTER then what we have now.

Because it sounds like he is building his future but WITHOUT US. He isn't even ASKING US to be a important part of it - he doesn't speak about us helping him or we doing this together. He decides that he goes alone and only want us to VISIT him - that doesn't sound like an invitation to stay with him. It sounds like thank you for the fun but I will go now. Bye. And that while speaking before about his love for Tav. So this isn't Tavs decision, it is only Halsins decision and we can't even challenge it. How is this considerate or caring about the partner? It sounds like a break-up but since he is saying we don't have a relationship at all I guess in his view it isn't - but if you do break up with him, suddenly he is all heart-broken... so what is it?

Sorry, you keep posting all these text things but I stopped reading it. I don't get it. Maybe I never will. If you are happy with Halsin then this is great! But I guess by reading this thread (and checking reddit, discord, tumblr ...) you can get an impression from the other side - that not everyone is happy about it. That there are people happy with Halsin doesn't take away our disappointment.

I think things need to be more clearer - either he is meant to be a fling, then make it obvious. He should communicate it right from the start that he is open for sex (even with others) but won't commit. Then he shouldn't keep the player/Tav waiting and speaking about his stirring heart and all other romantic romance lines.

If he is (maybe as additional option) to be meant as real romance option with romance talk and romance ending, then give the players at least the opportunity to stay with him at the end, to have a talk with him about their relationship, about what it means about their future together. No one (even if monogamous) knows how long you will love your partner and stay with this person. That doesn't take away from him being poly. If in the future he might fall in love with someone else along Tav, then they can handle it later. But this is then part of fanfiction/player head canon. So for those who like him monogamous they can imagine he does not fall in love with someone else until Tav or both die. And those who like poly can have their poly relationship too - at the moment even in game if you romance Astarion/Shadowheart. There should be at least the option/dialog that they have a future (how long doesn't need to be stated, he doesn't need to say I will love you forever because he can't know) together, you know, proofing that he really loves Tav and wants to stay together.

If the player needs several handbooks to be educated about poly relationships to maybe understand what is going on then I think something is wrong. And just that there is a name for it doesn't mean that there are a lot of players who would like or enjoy that. You can do what you like in your personal life but this is a game and he was a fan favorite and what they did with him (either intentionally or due to lack of resources or whatever) really negatively impacts a lot of players who were waiting and hoping for him. The ones who asked for him turn away from him and even those who did not want to romance him are upset with him and start to hate him because he impacts their other romances..... was it really necessary to add a beloved NPC as companion just to turn him into a mess that a lot of people dislike after this? What was the point?