Originally Posted by Nicottia
Originally Posted by Dauyxe
Oh, and one little thing about the ascending storyline made me feel like this was the deathblow to the romance and couldn't give the happy ending:
If you decide to let him make you his spawn and you pass the insight (or maybe it was mind reading) during the sex scene, you learn that while he demands you to get on your knees, he'll also resent you if you do. I think it's a great example of writing where the character doesn't actually want what he wants. It's great and it's horrible.


He doesn't resent you. In that scene if you pass the wisdom check to look into his mind narrator states that he thinks that for as long as you will remain with him you are degrading yourself and that maybe you do want to degrade yourself and he knows it. There is absolutely nothing about him resenting you. But him thinking that you are degrading yourself is... almost just as bad. He clearly stopped loving Tav/Durge the moment he ascended and instead he became overly possessive of them. Hence the 'degrading yourself' line.

Well spotted! You are right, degrading is the word that they use in the exact line. I interpret that'd also include some level of resentment behind it. My reasoning is that he is giving an ultimatum in that scene, telling naked Tav that he either goes down on his knees or this is all going to end here, and the narrator tells you that he thinks Tav is degrading himself if he accepts this. I thought that feelings of resentment would also be a natural part of such a situation.

However, I also think that this is all open for different interpretations and don't think that mine is necessarily the best one. I might be well off from what the writer intended.

Also, I admit that I might also just get things plain wrong, since English isn't my native language and emotionally important words always translate with culturally different connotations.