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#90005 01/09/03 04:19 AM
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Don't sweat it Dad! Laugh all you want! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> I was not speaking from a lifetime of study on the subject by any means. I do find it all very interesting though.
I think in reality we would all like to know exactly where we come from, because life is so diverse. Are we heaven sent? And if we are; where did the other tribes come from? (christian biblical) Or did we evolve from ameba? If the latter is the case, why hasn't our DNA changed since then? If it has then, perhaps natural selection is taking over and the female chromasone is becomming more dominant. Why have apes not evolved into man yet? And why have we not devolved into cats, because we know they are the master race anyway! LOL! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kitty.gif" alt="" /> Here kitty, kitty! I stand corrected! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> I think....


Hi,
I am not laughing at you and I do not even dare do such a thing.
Your post was a very nice post with high humour content. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
You also have all the right to ask such questions and you are not alone in doing that.
Perhaps all humans ask the same questions.

Ok, I shall try to avoid technical words and simplify as much as possible.
Our social and political convictions are biased towards forcing a biblical relation that never existed.
The search for a common mother is nothing but evidence to the non-scientific approach because the hypothesis is religious and not based on any findings. However, the twist here is in using findings to prove a religious hypothesis.


The genetic dominance is not in the same sense of dominance in literature.
Imagine that the colour of the eye of the fruit fly is red because that colour is produced by a set of biochemicals related to a specific gene. If that gene is defective one or more of such chemicals should be absent leading to an eye that is albino (no colour). But we know that genetic code is inherited from a mother and a father equally, therefore one of two genes could be sufficient to provide those chemicals and the eye is coloured.
Only when both the father and the mother have defective drosophila-eye-pigment-gene does that fly show albino recession. Genetic dominance is chemical and has no one on one relation with gender unless it was related to the X and Y chromosomes.

I shall give you some logical examples as a reference of thoughts to be used as tools for making decisions.
News, stories, lyrics and many diverse written materials on the web are in English.
Such diversity in the written content is almost as infinite as the genetic code is.
If we assume that all writings must have one origin can we prove it?
If we assume that all letters, constants and vowels came from one letter, can we prove it?
That is absolutely neither correct nor possible, because assumptions without rigorous foundations are not science but could be anything else.

Given the size of earth and the homogeneity of its atmosphere and oceans and a very consistent distribution of the crust into continents, why would one single person, be that male (Adam) or female (Eve), suddenly show up or even be the offspring of another species as a mutation? Science has already proved that this is impossible in any biblical way. Temperature variations are known to vary along the line of South-North, but it forms a belt that surrounds earth east and west. Most probably, the most ancient species related to the modern man lived and concentrated in tribes on the equatorial line where plenty of rain is essential for drinking and riverbanks are even better.
Breathing and drinking come first and is followed by eating; hence food resources are critical too. We are very similar to Bonobo apes that it is not far fetched to have a common ancestry but we left the trees for living in caves by seaside after discovering fire.
This did not happen in one specific place but in too many places where variations of the environment induced small variations in the characteristics of that species and by migrations and re-combinations even more diversity came to be. Evolution does not work by selection only because that would narrow the variation rather than enhance diversity. Food and adaptation are the strongest factors beside selection. If I ever gave in to accept our evolution from prokaryotes then why do we overlook the fact that prokaryotes multiplied and billions dominated the scene at one point in time? This implies that we could evolve in a parallel manner rather than from any specific cell. This is what I call group-evolution not individual evolution. A group has a better chance to survive than any individual.

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I wish I had a "GIF" to show how that hit me! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />!! Thats close! Um, thank you for the clairification, DAD. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> I now know I am in the deep end of the pool not knowing how to swim! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> Now I can rest easy... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sleepey.gif" alt="" />


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More on the whole genetic adam/eve thing.
So, as most of us know...a child has more of a chance of getting genetically wrong genes if thier parents are brother and sister. The "bad" genes have a higher chance of being passed on that way.
So...if we all came from Adam and Eve...and their children ect...we would all have the same genes. Hence, we would all be handicapped, as the damaging genes would have been passed on through all the blood lines.

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yeah- we'd all be stumbling around drooling and making 'bub bub ahhhh duh bub' noises. yay!!


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yeah- we'd all be stumbling around drooling and making 'bub bub ahhhh duh bub' noises. yay!!


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faile,
I know you mean what you said in a spirit of fun, but please do not make fun of the image of a handicapped.
In Japan we respect them and care for them a lot because they did not choose to be.
If you have seen the movie “My left foot” you would certainly make no fun of this issue again.
I have trained myself not to feel pity for handicapped people and to consider them as equals or rather better put to “see them as equals”.

Genetic disorder is a very big issue when it concerns human beings, sometimes it causes leukaemia, in other cases it causes mental retardation, etcetera. So I can hardly see it funny at all.

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However, we are going against "survival of the fittest" With all our medicine, care ect, there is no such thing in the human race any longer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> I think that is wrong. We are not gods, and should not act as such.
They may not have chosen to "Be" but we have chosen for them.

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Carrie, I really shudder to open a discussion on this issue because it “will” drag religion, politics, medicine, social studies, law, and whole load of crap that I cannot afford arguing with or against.
Some mothers love and care for a handicapped child who turns out to be her best support when she gets old.
Some mothers literally kill a handicapped son or daughter, so please relief me from such an extremely controversial issue that has no end.
I only know that I must obey the law whatever that is.
Discipline had been injected in my brain. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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I know here in the states, that if you don't have insurance, you are as good as dead if you had a illness and no money unless you are handicapped,then you get money from the goverment. With all the technology out there, the powers that be seem to want to prolong life instead of enrich it. I have issues about that. I would not want to bring a child into this world that I knew was only going to suffer, either by ridicule or pain of incurable illness. I would not want it for myself either. If my parents knew that they carried a gene that would create certain death or disfigurment, mental or physical to their children, they would have never reproduced. Unfortunately many who do know, will. That is sad. When I see grown men and women that cannot or ever will be able to care for themselves, I think of the massive burden it places on everyone else around them. Carrie, you are right! We are going against basic survival of the fittest. If these people did not have someone to care for their every need,they would not exist. Simple as that. I am not saying I belive in geonocide, fratricide or any of that. I am just saying that people with bad genes should not reproduce. [color:"red"] [/color] Flame me if ya want! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


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i agree......... no flame please.....there has been enough of that,
in the last few days to last for a year!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />

thank you and have a lovely day! or night! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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Can't evertone kiss and make up? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />

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i don't wear make-up.....it wrecks my natural green glow!!
but here's a kiss for ya!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />


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What has happened to your Avi, Jurak? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> Haven't seen it in awhile. Is this a new form of torture? Or are you incognito X-Man? Okay,here are some smoochies... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />! Don't get any ideas though. Orc/Pegesus bad genes...


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@ DAD- relax, please. i have all respect for handicapped people too, a member of my family has cerebal palsy and is confined to a wheelchair. but what is life if you cannot laugh at it?


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Does the Lair need more teeth? Lots more teeth?


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Flame me if ya want! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


I do not think that such a comment was a nice idea.
Thank you for such a privilege but no thanks, I ran out of my propane reserves.
Would butane do? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />



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i don't wear make-up.....it wrecks my natural green glow!!
but here's a kiss for ya!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />


And here is one from me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />

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@ DAD- relax, please. i have all respect for handicapped people too, a member of my family has cerebal palsy and is confined to a wheelchair. but what is life if you cannot laugh at it?


I had a hunch that your intentions were innocent and said what you said for fun.
Here is a joke for you.
{
The truck driver came down from his truck after he struck two kids who were chancing each others on bicycles.
One kid died instantly but the other had only a broken leg.
The driver was very angry and said to that kid:
”Why are you screaming so badly, look your dead buddy says nothing”
}

It is funny as a joke, but no one would ever be laughing in such a situation with death.
My comment was for the uninitiated only to distinguish between psychological compensatory jokes and convictions by law.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

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It is funny as a joke

Sorry, I can't agree.

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> I see does not have a Lair yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> . We have had in the past the Dragon Lair, The Island for the Mentally Ill, The Inn, The Coffee Shop. Just to name a few...
Now since it is early in the game. (litteraly) While we are waiting for our
"Lairians" to release the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> demo. Here can be the place for the Doll
collectors. The Rune readers, and the Deathknight linkies who are bound to travel the multi universes to meet and call "Homebase".
Lar, in his interveiws has given us plenty of meat to chew to whet our appitites
for the comming game. So lets chat about ALL of it!
For all the oldtimers out there who had watched LMK come and go, and finally saw <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> come to frutation. For all the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> enthusiasts who like me, still continue to play <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> for hours on end <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Welcome to the new "Lair"!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


Lets get back to this...Shall we?


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