Originally Posted by Ixal
Originally Posted by TheLastDorito
I purely stick to BG3-type RPGs. Which is perhaps why I haven't played it and Star Wars yet. But if what you've said is true, then indeed BG3 is meh even now (and I need to play Disco!).
Just play the two finder games (which are closer to BG2 than BG3 is anyway). And I think that nearly all of the companions in those games are better then the BG3 compa ions except maybe Sosiel or Harrim. Even secondary companions like Aivu are better than half the BG3 cast combined.

Fortunately we have all sorts of RPGs to play, all with their different pros and cons, and catering to different preferences. Personally, I liked the Pathfinder games, especially WotR, but like the BG3 characters, writing, story and very definitely combat and gameplay far more (I found the combat such a bore in Kingmaker that I gave up, and while I finished WotR there were times when I found it an absolute grind, which I never have with BG3). Disco Elysium is in my view a masterpiece, and its writing is far superior to most other games, and certainly to that of any RPG I�ve ever played. But then that�s its focus and in it we don�t have nearly the scope or freedom that BG3 gives us. And there are plenty of other RPGs, eg the PoE and D:OS games, that are definitely worth a go and have some fantastic elements. And I�m sure the ones I�ve not even got round to playing, such as Tyranny and embarrassingly Skyrim, have things to enjoy and that other games can learn from.

But for all I�d agree there are plenty of individual things that other games do better than BG3, and that BG3 still has too many bugs, the epilogue is an anti-climax and the plot coherence leaves something to be desired, it�s still my favourite of the bunch right now. And the fact it does lots of things really well in my view and so many things engagingly if not brilliantly, for me make it a winner over games that are more limited in scope or ambition.

But I think its success can only be good for the genre, bringing in more players and investment as well as providing an exemplar of what can be done, mainly well and sometimes badly. Sure, some unimaginative studios and developers might just try to copy the BG3 �formula� but if so then I�d doubt they had the passion to make a great game anyway. I�d hope that Larian and other studios that do have the passion and vision will capitalise on BG3�s success to bring us yet more fun and varied RPGs.


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