Originally Posted by GiantOctopodes
Out of curiosity, what exactly is it that you think a Fighter does better than a monk? What makes them “better”, the number of attacks? Action Surge? Something else?

I’m very confident that I can make a Monk build which is flat out better than a fighter in literally any metric we choose to evaluate, they’re absurdly OP, so the fact that you have them at the bottom of your tier list is very interesting to me.

Rogues as well of course, a Rogue / Gloomstalker or Rogue / Shadow Monk has as many or more attacks than a fighter of equivalent level for all levels, hasted or not up until level 11 and then 1 less attack while hasted but the same number otherwise at 11 and 12, in exchange for some crazy stealth stuff going on. But while I disagree on Rogues you don’t have them at literally the bottom of the list and they’re certainly not as OP as Monks are.

monk are bottom cause any other melee classes is better than him, paladin ridiculas dmg from smites heal and aura and heavy armor, barb with rage take 50% less dmg from melee, warrior that have monuvers 3 attack per turn on 11, can use heavy armor or medium if multiclass with barb

fighter on 11 with haste can make 9 attacks in one turn, fighter with
GITHYANKI race also have access to riduculas greatswords in game, monk dont even have half dmg than fighter with GITHYANKI greatswords
fighter with heavy armor also are more tanky, same with barb with rage or paladin with shield and weapons like Defender Flail

for ranger pure beastmaster is way better than other subclass cause bear are tanks that provoke enemies

also heavy armor mastery give 3 dmg less and +1str from 17 to 18 mix it with forge heavy armor that reduce dmg by another 2

you can use 2h paladin also with 2h fighting mastery and Savage Attacker that give ridiculas dmg from any 2h weapons

Last edited by DYNIA; 28/09/23 08:56 AM.