There, i said it ... i would even go so far to claim, its done straight forward badly. :-/
Not sure if this is the only way, or i just picked some really weird permutation ...
But as i approach to final battle against Minsc ... Jaheira in my group starts beging to "not kill him" and "find anothe way" ...
> So i killed Fake Jaheira first ... she even turned back in her original doppelganger form ...
Nothing ... so i though, okey, maybe Minsc really is *that* stupid ...
> So i killed everyone else ... capured him in Hold Person ... and went to explore the room ...
Wich was anoying as fuck btw, since in turn based mode, it feels ten times biger.
I was looking for some kind of diary, scetch of Boo, Boo himself locked in some cage, box, or other container ... anything that would help Minsc remember.
Didnt find anything ofc.
I even find one part of wall that looked suspiciously fragile, and spend two turn sending Eldrich Blasts and explosives that way ...
Nothing ...
> So i gave up ... and decided to kill him.
Funny enough, that worked!
Bcs i forgot i still have non-lethal attacks enabled ... bcs i wanted to steal all loot from that Zhentarim vendor who was there. xD
Im sure many people feel now like "duh, man ... you dont want to kill anyone, you use non lethat attack that should be no brainer" ...
And i would possibly agee ... except nope, i dont.
> Tryed to save Marina's brothers by knocking them out? - Both dead.
> Tryed to Wyll's father (yup, killed Gortash first time we met) by knocking him out? - Dead.
> Tryed to save Minthara by knocking her out? - Dead.
And the list goes on.
My point is, as far as i know (and feel free to corect me) this is THE ONE AND ONLY case, in WHOLE FREAKING GAME ... where non-lethal attacks actually works!
And i dont really have the feeling that this function was properly advertised to player, since by the time we get to this particular combat ... we have probably over dozen of very dissapointing experiences with this bullshit, that ensured us in that there is no real function at all!
Suggested fixes:
- Let this scene simply proc when he have low health, like every other NPC in the game.
- Let us break the wall and find Boo, while Minsc is still hostile ... let them help each other.
- Let Minsc realize that Half-Elves dont usualy transform into bat/bulldog face creatures immediately uppon death.
- Let Jaheira actually yell "use non-lethal attacks" rather than "find another way" ... hoping that player will translate it as: "Remember that shit that was completely useless for past hundert of hours? NOW ITS NOT!"
Thank you for reading.
Last edited by RagnarokCzD; 29/09/23 08:48 PM.