Originally Posted by sailorgundam
Originally Posted by Aron Dalentor
That would make a fine campaign but Karlach would still remain robbed of a meaningful narrative choice in her BG3 adventure to setup all of this.

Originally Posted by sailorgundam
There is a magical item in Avernus that belonged to Zariel, a sword that basically makes anyone who touches it an angelic form of themselves (it’s irreversible and the person is basically gone, kinda Astarion ascended vibes/mindflayer, but for good and celestial perfection).

Originally Posted by sailorgundam
But she’d have a big choice there - using the sword would erase herself, but also “cure” her, since her body would become “perfect”. It’s akin to Shadowheart’s choice of serving Shar.

I'm catching very heavy "Rejection of the Gift" vibes from WoW lol, where Illidan refused to become a holy entity which would erase his traumatic experiences, shouting "I AM MY SCARS" at the creature who tried to forcibly transform him and destroying it.

Never heard of it. Sounds rad, though.

It's a moment that works particularly well for Illidan, it's perfectly in character and encapsulates what he is all about. Unironically one of my favourite WoW moments, cause it's earned. Long story short, (and somewhat inaccurate, but for the sake of brevity and convenience:) llidan sacrifices everything to obtain demonic powers that permanently change him, he does so in the pursuit of stopping the big bad while being shunned and exiled by everyone he holds dear. In this particular moment he gets a shot at "redemption" by this divine being, which begins to change him against his will. He proceeds to curbstomp said being while proclaiming that "his destiny is his own". He doesn't need to be purified because his actions are his own, the consequences are his to bear, his scars make him who he is and all that matters is that he sees his hunt to the end. It works because of his story, IMHO.

Now I didn't went on a WoW loresplaining spree with no intent, mind you: i just wanted to say that a similar arc for karlach would fall incredibly flat because her story so far is fundamentally different, she doesn't sacrifice anything of her own volition, she gets robbed of every single thing. However, in this imaginary scenario, it could be spun in a Vengeance/Forgiveness fashion. I personally wouldn't find it very cool, but it could work nonetheless. (Although yeah, I really don't know what asspull would be necessary to find something to justify a "Forgive and redeem Zariel" option.)