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PLEASE Larian, I'm doing a good play-through and I hate how mean some of the options are to reject companions (Wyll and Gale being the ones who made me write this). I hate that my only options are "initiate romance" and "I don't wanna hear you wallow in self pity, goodbye". Give us a nicer way to say we're not interested and a platonic option to go along with their requests. Gale's Act 2 scene really bothers me as it's clear he doesn't wanna be alone, and as a friend I should be able to say I'll stay with him without fear of him thinking something more will happen between us and leading him on and. Wyll looked like a kicked puppy after declining his offer to dance, I should be able to dance with him as a friend or have a nicer way of rejecting. Please at the very least give us a nicer way to say "no" without the companions looking so hurt and the dialogue choice not being so mean.

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Is there a way to tell Halsi to bugger off? I don't want any Druid perv in my camp! Or is he like Withers - shows up univited and is impossible to get rid of?

Another camp pollutant I'd get rid off is Volo ... although unlike Halsin he does serve some purpose - you can sell rotten foodstuffs etc. to him.

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Originally Posted by CasAngel
Gale's Act 2 scene really bothers me as it's clear he doesn't wanna be alone, and as a friend I should be able to say I'll stay with him without fear of him thinking something more will happen between us and leading him on.

There’s clearly a bunch of things that are wobbly about romance triggers, so I’d not be confident that what happened to me would happen to you. But I didn’t have a romance with Gale and sat with him, and he didn’t hit on me afterwards. In fact, he said some very heartwarming stuff about our friendship. I pasted screenshots when this was discussed over at https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=883829#Post883829.

And to anyone else contributing here, given we do have that thread and others discussing romance and camp related stuff, let’s keep this one focused on the specific ask for gentler let downs. If this starts duplicating discussions elsewhere, I’ll lock it so we don’t just end up covering the same ground in different places.


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Originally Posted by Buba68
Is there a way to tell Halsi to bugger off? I don't want any Druid perv in my camp! Or is he like Withers - shows up univited and is impossible to get rid of?

Another camp pollutant I'd get rid off is Volo ... although unlike Halsin he does serve some purpose - you can sell rotten foodstuffs etc. to him.

Unfortunately you are stuck with him if you want to complete all quests and he's especially icky since if you bring him into your party, there is no way to get him to stop coming onto you (and your partner) even if you turn him down. So you really want to park him in your camp if you aren't into him and don't want things to get uncomfortable.

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Originally Posted by CasAngel
Gale's Act 2 scene really bothers me as it's clear he doesn't wanna be alone, and as a friend I should be able to say I'll stay with him without fear of him thinking something more will happen between us and leading him on and. Wyll looked like a kicked puppy after declining his offer to dance, I should be able to dance with him as a friend or have a nicer way of rejecting. Please at the very least give us a nicer way to say "no" without the companions looking so hurt and the dialogue choice not being so mean.
Yup, though it still won’t address a more fundamental issue. They shouldn’t trigger, or be altered if player isn’t actively romancing them.

This is the issue with cutscenes - they take away our control from our character and make them do stuff I as a player don’t want (like my PC sitting uncomfortably close to Gale and looking into his eyes like a puppy. Not having them trigger at all would be an option, but that’s not great as most companion interactions seem to be locked behind romances. Cyberpunk had similar issue, even though whom one can romance was greatly limited per-playthrough. You can’t have same content act as “friendly” and “romantic” options. It just doesn’t work.

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I dont know if they fixed it but on first playthrough i got rid of gale by killing him in the camp... my party kept moving his body to each new campsite whole game and elminster came looking for him too.. there his body lied with his tent always.

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I dont know if they fixed it but on first playthrough i got rid of gale by killing him in the camp...

Ok ... But did you do it GENTLY?

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Yes, at least on my stantards, took only one hit. But if you cant get rid of them even that way, then is it possible to get rid of them at all ?

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In my opinion, BG2 romance dialogues are so much more interesting than BG3 in every way but visually and sexually.

Example of a romance path with Aerie (spoilers) your alignment and some conditions are necessary for some of these dialogues to progress (would love if someone did the same for a BG3 romance path, to compare) :




LD1: 'My wings have been clipped...oh, I wish you could understand
how it feels to be bound and chained to the ground, like a
miserable prisoner of earth'

Choose option 1

LD2: 'Have...have you ever heard of my people? The Avariel?

Choose option 1

'My memory is dim, but whenever the thought crosses my mind,
my eyes still blur with tears'

Choose option 1

LD3: 'He used to say that a frown would never get anything useful
done. I think everyone could use some cheering up...what
about you (character name)?

Choose option 4

LD4: I...I have been looking at the scars...on my back. The stumps
that were...that were once my wings. They do not make me
truly homely do they? Am I...am I ugly to you?

You can choose either option 1 or 3. Either will have more
or less the same effect.

I've felt like a great part of me has been missing ever
since. I am incomplete...I do not feel beautiful, (character
name). Not anymore.

Either option 1 or 2 will suffice although I believe 2 to be
the better answer.

LD5: 'Have I told you how I was captured and enslaved?

Choose Option 1

'I...I...I suppose...I suppose I was glad to learn that the child
escaped after all He ran away after my fall. Hopefully he
survived...'

Choose Option 1

LD6: I miss my Uncle Quayle dearly

Choose option 1

'I was happy...of a sort...while I was with him. I owe him so
much.'

Choose Option 1

'Baevern brought me my faith back. He gave me peace when I
needed it most. And I shall always pay him homage in my
heart. Is that so strange (character name)?'

Either option 1 or 2, but I think 1 is better.

LD7: 'Have you traveled much? I have been over much of Amn and
Tethyr...with the circus although it was not always the most
pleasant way to voyage'

Choose option 1 or 2. I believe 2 is better though.

'And...and I am glad to be traveling with you (character
name). You have saved my life and made me feel very
welcome.'

Either option 1 or 2 will do but I believe 2 is better here.

LD8: 'AHHH! HELP ME! HELP ME! PLEEEAAASSE!

Well it is pretty straight forward. There is only one
option after all!!

'I...(gasp)...I was having a dream. A most dreadful nightmare!
Please...please sit with me but for a short while...I am shaken
to the very core...'

Choose option 1!!

(shudder) I screamed and screamed!! They...hacked off...my
wings and then used torches to seal my wounds. Oh, (char
name)...! (sob!) Oh, (char name) I...I...!

I believe option 2 is the best but 1 will also suffice.

LD9: 'I have been thinking...I shall never fly again, never taste
the freedom of my wings. I am sure of it...I...I don't know if
I can face this wretched existence on the ground.'

Choose option 1

'But it IS! It is (char name)! How could you understand
when you haven't flown in the clouds? To feel weightless
and free. Ohhh how I miss it!

There is some debate on what to choose here. 1 and 2 will
work but I really don't know which is better. I chose 2
here but in my other games I have chosen 1. Either way, the
romance will not finish.

LD10: I...I am sorry for the way I yelled at you. I sometimes feel
as if... I have been weighted down by many stones...but I should
not have reacted so to your words.

Choose option 1

I...I suppose you are correct. But how can I? Tell me how
can I ever accept this (char name)?

Choose option 1 or 2.

LD11: 'Why must we always be fighting? All I see is bloodshed and
battle...and it drains me. Do you...do you not yearn for a life
of peace and contemplation?'

Choose Option 1

LD12: 'I need you to tell me what the worth of life on the ground
is. Is there anything to compare with the freedom of living
in the clouds?'

Choose option 1

'No...they can't be. Everything of beauty can be seen from
the sky. And there are so many places that you cannot go if
you can only walk.'

Choose option 2

LD13: 'I've...I've had enough of this life! (sob!) P-perhaps it
would be better if I just went back to the circus.

Choose option 3. Yes it looks harsh but if you choose any
other then she'll leave the party.

'But I have, I have (char name)! I just don't have the
strength. I'm so useless...'

Choose option 2

(sob!) I...I can't

Choose option 2.

LD14: 'I'm such a silly woman. Whining and crying...I must seem so
ridiculous and petty. No man will ever want me I think...I
feel so embarrassed.'

Choose option 3

'Oh, you're just flattering me (char name)! None of that is
true really!

Choose option 2

'Oh...I see. Well thank you (char name). Ummm...do you...do you
think I'm beautiful? I mean do you feel all these things
about me?'

Choose option 2

LD15: 'I've...I've been thinking about some of the things you have
been telling me. I...I wanted you to know that I've come to a
decision'

Choose option 1

'And I...I hope that you will be here to teach me about it
(char name). To show how one can still...still live on the
ground and still be happy.'

Choose option 1

LD16: 'Aerie says that she has heard about your adventures in
Sword Coast north of here. She asks you what you did and
says that it sounds exciting.

Choose the option where you say that you went to Baldur's
Gate to defeat your brother Sarevok.

A couple more dialogues, Aerie says that do you think she's
strange?
Tell her that you are pleased with her change and she will
say that she is also pleased and will look forward to
battles and says that the feeling is really exciting and she
feels like she can fly again.

LD17: 'Have you been to many other places besides Amn?'

Choose option 1

'I...I want to go to these places (char name)! I want to
voyage there and see their beauty for myself...and want to
stand there and feel it...touch it with my hands.'

Choose option 1

~~~~~~~~~~~
NOTE
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By now Aerie is basically your girlfriend. Those who know how to
use the CLUAConsole or use Shadowkeeper will be able to see in the
ROMANCEACTIVE part of the global variables the number there is now
a 2 which means romance acquired.
~~~~~~~~~~

LD18: 'I've been wondering...have you got any advice for me for
combat?'

Choose option 1

LD19: 'I...I know that it is difficult to see what is to happen in the
future...but do you have any plans? I mean once this is all over, I
mean...'

Choose option 1

'Well do you see your self traveling? Or settling down? Do
you...do you see yourself with me?'

'I would prefer to be with you Aerie...if the Gods are willing'

LD20: 'My love...? I...I know that you are tired from the day's travels and
that you wish to rest. I...wish to ask you something...before you
retire to your blankets...'

Choose option 1

'I...I will show you my body (char name)...and I hope it pleases you.
Would you...would you stay with me this night (char name)? Will you
show me what true love consists of?'

Choose option 2

'Stay with me for the night then (char name) and hold me to you.
I...don't want to be alone, and I so desperately need to be near
you.'

Choose option 1

LD19: 'I was so eager to experience everything new that I...I did not
think. Thank you for respecting me. I...I love you and I want our
first time to be something special.'

Choose option 1


From here on, if you continue on to Chapter six and meet Bodhi, you will
get a special event concerning your love interest, in this case Aerie.
You will have to save her from being a vampire and in order to do that
you will have to read through some books on vampirism which can be found
in Bodhi's lair at the bottom level in a trapped chest! Basically, the
Aerie romance finishes right here! Yay!


It just reminded me of the bowl of goat's milk that old Winthrop used to put outside his door every evening for the dust demons. He said the dust demons could never resist goat's milk, and that they would always drink themselves into a stupor and then be too tired to enter his room..
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Originally Posted by Ikke
Originally Posted by Modder
I dont know if they fixed it but on first playthrough i got rid of gale by killing him in the camp...

Ok ... But did you do it GENTLY?

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