Originally Posted by Annoyed Player

Then you get to the endgame and Bhaal can force Orin to turn into the Slayer, even if she resists, which is like a divine intervention. And after you kill her and reject Bhaal, he just takes away the taint and kills you??? It made sense, when Sarevok died, but not here. Worse still, any semblance of heroic sacrifice is gone, as you immediately get brought back by Withers.

Shadowheart or anyone you romanced doesn’t rush towards you, revivify not working, etc. Even if we work under assumption that you resisted the Urge pretty much all the time, you are still responsible for the whole Absolute plot. Getting an easy way out like this just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.


Great points! I especially agree it needs waaaay more companion reaction and less jokes at a minimum. I should note though that I think it actually makes a lot of sense that:
you’ve effectively become a different person than you were before, and you’ve developed a soul/self wholly separate form Bhaal.

My biggest problem is just that it really doesn’t feel right for -my- DUrge, who, up till this point, has been yo-yo’ing between giving in and resisting the urge. They’re an arrogant, prideful villain, but not -his- puppet.

It really felt like at this point in the game, they were expecting you to either be 100% aiming for that evil chosen of Bhaal ending, or had been resisting the urge the entire time and saw it as something that was inherently not a part of you. That kinda put me in a hard spot where it felt like the dialogue was almost mocking me for reluctantly choosing Bhaal with lines like “well, I guess there’s no other way! *wink* *nudge*”, when the reality is, my character’s biggest ideological hangup with the whole murder thing was always Bhaal being the one to decide how they ought to behave. Naturally, the one thing they wanted to do was to win. Withers isn’t winning though, he’s losing. Bhaal killed them and reclaimed the urge. They didn’t master it. They have no more motivation.

Which, fine, I kinda liked the betray Bhaal at the last second and commit suicide ending (once I got over having to stomach the bowing), but boy did that feel half baked with zero companion reaction from my love interest as I gutted myself in front of them. Not to mention that Karlach’s scene plays immediately after, leading to an unavoidable companion death and completely distracting me from the impact of my “fuck you father” decision. It was even worse choosing madness option, because I jarring got the option to go to hell with Karlach and Wyll, despite the prior scene showing me going feral. Hah!

Last edited by Yharmeru; 01/10/23 01:58 AM.