Originally Posted by Oddzilla
Originally Posted by Annoyed Player
Originally Posted by Timon
Suggesting there's too much queer content in this game is simply bigotry.

Nice strawman. So, lgbttv get a ton of content for them and simply wanting it reduced is bigotry? Listen up, I have got nothing against gay people or trans for that matter. They live their lives, I live mine and we can both agree to live and let live.

The problem is that there is a difference of letting people pick and choose if they want to be gay or not and shoving political correctness down our throat just for the sake of it. BG3 does the latter. Heaven Forbid I don�t want my male character to be hit on by every single male in the camp, especially after I romanced Shadowheart, etc.

There is a way to keep both sides happy, by simply letting the player to choose if they want such interactions to happen. Unfortunately, there is no option like this in settings. And guess want nothing prevents people from simply killing all those gay characters if they piss you off, so at least there is that and they aren't essential for the game. Do I do that? Also no. Am I tired of this kind of forced interactions? Yes, I am.

It also ties in broken romance system, where you are hit on by everyone even if my character would be perfectly fine being bros with Gale, Wyll, etc.


Sad that people get so accustomed to having their worldview pandered to that they start to think it's the default state of the universe or something. Then when demographics shift, they lose their minds over the idea of other worldviews and lifestyles being acknowledged

Your desire to have the game pretend lgbtq doesn't exist for your own personal comfort is basically demanding that the developers treat your specific political and sociological preferences as the "default" and the stuff you don't like as some "other" extra content that can be disabled at your leisure.

Sorry bub, your worldview, sociological and sexual values are not the default, and developers shouldn't feel any more obligated to pander to you than to any other worldview or letter of lgbtq.

Right, instead they should pander to other minorities and everyone who exists in the world. Forgive me for making an assumption that we are all equal and nobody should be treated more special than anyone else, because of their sexuality, gender or the fact that they identify themselves as a lettuce for some reason.

My beef is not with lgbt people, my beef is with the fact that they are prioritized over everyone else. Case in point, we get at least 3 couples in acts 1 and 2 alone that are into their same-sex partners: Gnomes Twice in Grymforge, Isobel and her lover, some female goblin with a crush on Minthara, etc. You get the point.

Now, how many of opposite sex relationships are in the game that are well in sight? I can think of one: two tieflings in Druid's grove arguing about their tavern of choice.

And no matter how you slice it, lgbt are what less than 10% of the world's population? Just to be generous. Make no mistake, the game shouldn't be sexist, racist, bigotic, misognistic, etc. You get the idea.

Giving everyone a fair representation seems logical, but it doesn't happen here. Same-sex relationships are represented more than opposite-sex, at least in acts 1 and 2. Can't speak about about act 3, due it's unfinished nature.

If you haven't noticed, I am not arguing for removal of all these characters. I am not saying that lgbt have got no right to exist or something like this. I am arguing that both sides should be represented fairly and equally. That doesn't happen here. So, is my worldview shattered? No, there is already plenty of movies, games, etc that already do that. The newest Barbie movie comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Draganta
Originally Posted by Annoyed Player
Originally Posted by Timon
Suggesting there's too much queer content in this game is simply bigotry.

Nice strawman. So, lgbttv get a ton of content for them and simply wanting it reduced is bigotry? Listen up, I have got nothing against gay people or trans for that matter. They live their lives, I live mine and we can both agree to live and let live.

The problem is that there is a difference of letting people pick and choose if they want to be gay or not and shoving political correctness down our throat just for the sake of it. BG3 does the latter. Heaven Forbid I don�t want my male character to be hit on by every single male in the camp, especially after I romanced Shadowheart, etc.

There is a way to keep both sides happy, by simply letting the player to choose if they want such interactions to happen. Unfortunately, there is no option like this in settings. And guess want nothing prevents people from simply killing all those gay characters if they piss you off, so at least there is that and they aren't essential for the game. Do I do that? Also no. Am I tired of this kind of forced interactions? Yes, I am.

It also ties in broken romance system, where you are hit on by everyone even if my character would be perfectly fine being bros with Gale, Wyll, etc.

I don't know what you did, no male character ever got romantic with me. I even had Gale and Shadowhearts approval almost maxed out, but never had romantic interactions with both, because I didn't trigger them. Maybe don't trigger romances you don't want?

Odd, I had it trigger all of the time, pretty much. I romanced Shart early on in Act 1, did the Tiefling party and had Gale comment on my musk, comming onto me, while Wyll asked for a dance well into act 2, despite my character and Shart being together since act 1. I blame the broken triggers on that.

Last edited by Annoyed Player; 02/10/23 11:40 AM.