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Originally Posted by DYNIA
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Bards are able to be a jack of all trades but mater of none. I used a bard in a support role and as the party face during my first playthrough and it was a lot of fun. However if you are looking for a character that is the BEST at anyone thing, the Bard is not for you.

main problem is that you can use only 4 chars in team, i tried archer bard and melee bard both sucks and caster bard compered to sorc or wizzard is no comment or support to cleric or paladin

Again, you clearly have no idea, how to play a bard right - as Zentu said, bards are not for you.
The bard can a bit of all, you described with different characters above -and it's only one character slot - a sorc with dex gloves and friend cantrip will btw never be as good in skill checks as a bard with dex gloves and friends.


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Originally Posted by fylimar
Originally Posted by DYNIA
Originally Posted by Zentu
Bards are able to be a jack of all trades but mater of none. I used a bard in a support role and as the party face during my first playthrough and it was a lot of fun. However if you are looking for a character that is the BEST at anyone thing, the Bard is not for you.

main problem is that you can use only 4 chars in team, i tried archer bard and melee bard both sucks and caster bard compered to sorc or wizzard is no comment or support to cleric or paladin

Again, you clearly have no idea, how to play a bard right - as Zentu said, bards are not for you.
The bard can a bit of all, you described with different characters above -and it's only one character slot - a sorc with dex gloves and friend cantrip will btw never be as good in skill checks as a bard with dex gloves and friends.


crap class is not for me that are useless in my team, my sorc do always 20-35 check in charisma check and 20-35 check for most picks xD xD xD

sorc are better talker than bard and better lockpicker cause cat robe is robe and draconic sorc have 13 starting ac in robes and use it all the time xD

my sorc are specialist in persusions and lock picks from perks

you rly tell me you use robes on your bard ? xD

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With the way Larian has implemented a Swords Bard in BG3 (e.g. Flourishes are much stronger than in 5e) and the items available that work well with it (e.g. the Band of the Mystic Scoundrel, Gloves of Baneful Striking, Helmet of Arcane Acuity), I think it's got a strong case to be one of the strongest classes in the game, if not the strongest. I actually ended up having to apply self-nerfs (e.g. only allowing one successful Bardic Flourish a turn, not allowing a ranged slashing flourish to attack the same target twice) because it felt too OP. Casting AoE control spells at 100% success (or close to) chance as a bonus action whilst still getting to make hard hitting weapon attacks with your action(s) is no joke.

BTW I was running a Sorc 2/Swords Bard 10 and did sometimes wear robes with my Bard (+3 AC unarmoured from Draconic Sorc and access to Shield spell made that viable).

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Originally Posted by Metalogic
With the way Larian has implemented a Swords Bard in BG3 (e.g. Flourishes are much stronger than in 5e) and the items available that work well with it (e.g. the Band of the Mystic Scoundrel, Gloves of Baneful Striking, Helmet of Arcane Acuity), I think it's got a strong case to be one of the strongest classes in the game, if not the strongest. I actually ended up having to apply self-nerfs (e.g. only allowing one successful Bardic Flourish a turn, not allowing a ranged slashing flourish to attack the same target twice) because it felt too OP. Casting AoE control spells at 100% success (or close to) chance as a bonus action whilst still getting to make hard hitting weapon attacks with your action(s) is no joke.

BTW I was running a Sorc 2/Swords Bard 10 and did sometimes wear robes with my Bard (+3 AC unarmoured from Draconic Sorc and access to Shield spell made that viable).

Agreed, my sword bard felt very overpowered, with double crossbow and flourishes, she killed high armoured, high levelled enemies in one round.


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