Originally Posted by Veranis
Originally Posted by Rosa
If choose the option to sleep with astarion after his confesses everything to you, he leaves you. Makes me wonder why he doesn't do the same there.

Because it's two different situations.
In the first he had just confessed his feelings for you and though he knows the sex with Tav is different he still can't shake the 200 years of abuse making every kind of sexual intimacy having a bad aftertaste because it reminds him of all the 1000 times he didn't do it volantarily. He wants to be seen as a person, not a sex object. And asking him for sex immediately after he tells you that makes him feel like all you want from him is his body. Even worse, as he tells you afterwards, he can't say no, because he never learned how. (That's why giving him the choice to say no to the blood merchant is such a big deal to him.) He breaks up with you because you betray his trust.

In the twins scene on the other hand he is finally free of Cazador and can choose for himself and is eager to try stuff, but overestimates himself. Depending on how you approach the twins it's the twins that proposition and Astarion who answers first. It's not something anyone tells him to do.

Admittedly the confession scene, as beautiful as it is, is not very well handled, as you need to go down certain dialogue options to really get the whole picture. And the dialogue line that leads to the sex and break-up scene is pretty ambiguous. I myself did not think that telling him that he should have sex for his own pleasure instead of others' would lead to sex immediately. I wanted to back him up, not coerce him into sex. When I realized my error because of his immediate reaction I could not stop the scene from happening. I had to ride it out and see my Tav behave like a total douche. Luckily F8 exists... It would have been nice with a little more player agency here.

Yes, he overestimates himself but the they add into the scene "there's no joy in his eyes" means Tav sees it and doesn't react to it. I feel Astarion would at least say something. It's not like Astarion is Shy and with how Tav to reacts to this talk could lead to a break up. Just because someone loves a person doesn't mean they don't view the relationship differently.

Last edited by Rosa; 05/10/23 08:43 AM.