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Originally Posted by Illiti
Not a fan of poly or sharing with Halsin or anybody else, i just hope they remove Halsin interactions if you are not romancing him.
Same, people are now asking for more poly options and all I want is a way to talk to her about being exclusive together and if your character is as important to her as she says for her to reciprocate those feelings.

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While I agree, I don't think they'll change porn king Halsin. So asking for a female option to balance things is the second best option I feel.

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I see two possible outcomes here.
1. They change nothing
2. It's a giant monkey paw situation where instead of allowing you to be monogamous with Shadowheart no strings attached they double down on the poly stuff and have her start acting like Halsin

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Originally Posted by Bigli
2. It's a giant monkey paw situation where instead of allowing you to be monogamous with Shadowheart no strings attached they double down on the poly stuff and have her start acting like Halsin

Talk about self-destructive.

Personally, I'd prefer that all the poly stuff be removed completely from the game. it's a complete mess. But I agree that they're unlikely to do that.

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I regret typing that at all now I put the idea out there in the world and now it might happen.
I would actually be devastated if they did that I'm way more invested in this fictional character than any person should be.

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Yeah i to would like they remove poly, as i said previously, they chose two most damaged characters for poly, after everything SH went through (brainwashing, memory wipes, losing parents) i don't see how poly and sharing is healthy for her, i would think she would prefer stable relationship, especially as she stated in previous 2 acts that she is against sharing.

Also Halsin himself should see how emotionally broken/vulnerable she is, for somebody so old and wise.

So yeah, it really is a mess.

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Every patch they fail to fix this, we need to file a bug report. Maybe if enough of us keep pestering them they'll actually do something. Let's not give up just yet

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You're right it gives off the vibe that she's being taken advantage of by him, which isn't in line with his character in act 1-2. I know she isn't a real person but these stories/situations affect people in the real world.

I'd like to believe that most ppl want more intimacy and loving scenes in game with their partner, not a porno. But sometimes I see the most disturbing comments and it certainly challenges that belief lol

I still can't believe someone asked to include rape.. wtf lol

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If this were to even get addressed it'll take a very long time. For now, best to just keep chattin' about it.

There are much bigger issues they need to address first anyway. Like portionbeans (may he return after his unfortunate vacation) pointing out that there is an entire dialogue path for her completely missing from the game because of dialogue she has at the start of the game not returning after having talked to her once, while it is clearly intended to be another 'How am I holding up' type option. Something they, by the way, should REALLY introduce for all companions, not just Shadowheart and Halsin. The writer seriously thought it through properly, credit where it's due.

And act 3 having plenty of other wrong triggers causing dialogues not to happen, or giving the wrong ones. And this applies for all companions.

Plus, I'd rather get more companion content for act 3 in general before they start working on changing the content that we do have. Ignoring Halsin for now is a very small price to pay.

EDIT: And then I read something like Cowoline's story in the Halsin thread and suddenly I think changing these Halsin incident interactions is worth being bumped up on the priority list again.

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I went back to try and find the post from portionbeans but I gave up after a while. It must be way further back. I'm definitely curious what this dialogue path could be? Did portionbeans mention what was said in the dialogue?

Yeah I agree, I bet that would make for some interesting dialogue. I imagine early on lae'zel's responses to "how am I holding up?" being hilarious lol

I dunno this Halsin stuff is very annoying so I'd like it to be fixed asap. A lot of it probably includes the wrong triggers as well anyway. It's the least they could do.

I could go for some more camp interactions in act 3, including the companions, and even with each other. By then they should feel a lot more comfortable with one another, so them hanging out together feels realistic. Right now they feel like mannequins just standing around looking straightforward, it's really off-putting lol

And of course I would never say no to some cuddling with romantic partner. Oh and hugging, including friends. All of them need lots of hugs.

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Or when she tells you with a smile about telling bedtime tales to future children?
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Very offtopic but when the hell does she ever talk about the bedtime tale for children? Never seen that dialogue.
At the start of the game you have a dialogue option that says "What do you think of all that's happened to us so far?" which then opens up to more questions. The problem is the first time you ask this it turns in "I want to talk to you about all that's happened to us so far" and you never get to ask her that again and has less options and you can only ask her how you're holding up to her estimations. If you go the entire game while not asking her "What do you think of all that's happened to us so far?" she'll say that some time into act 3 when you finally do ask her.
Probably a bug or something.

^- that. It's from the Halsin thread. At the start of the game, it's just her being sassy as always. Apparently it turns into.. well, the screenshot. That's quite the development for something that you can literally ask her about 2 seconds after meeting her on the beach and never, ever see again. It would not have been written to develop so much if it wasn't meant to be a dialogue option more frequently available. I don't think he accounted for people going 100 hours of not asking her a question. But some madlad/lass did, and now we know.

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It's too bad you can only get that scene in such a specific way. That has to be a bug, surely. I always play female characters, so I wonder if that scene would still play, given they're same sex couple.

I wish there was a scene of the githyanki egg hatching (if you took it) with SH and MC having big smiles on their faces. It really feels like wasted potential. But then again, I could say that of a lot things in this game tbh lol

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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
It's too bad you can only get that scene in such a specific way. That has to be a bug, surely. I always play female characters, so I wonder if that scene would still play, given they're same sex couple.

I wish there was a scene of the githyanki egg hatching (if you took it) with SH and MC having big smiles on their faces. It really feels like wasted potential. But then again, I could say that of a lot things in this game tbh lol
I don't see a reason it wouldn't play as female. Yenna is a very easy option for adoption, for example. And Jaheira already has a small army of her own, so it's not exactly uncommon.

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Originally Posted by Michieltjuhh
Originally Posted by Backinstyle
It's too bad you can only get that scene in such a specific way. That has to be a bug, surely. I always play female characters, so I wonder if that scene would still play, given they're same sex couple.

I wish there was a scene of the githyanki egg hatching (if you took it) with SH and MC having big smiles on their faces. It really feels like wasted potential. But then again, I could say that of a lot things in this game tbh lol
I don't see a reason it wouldn't play as female. Yenna is a very easy option for adoption, for example. And Jaheira already has a small army of her own, so it's not exactly uncommon.
Yeah adoption is an option but "in a family way" literally means pregnant.

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Originally Posted by Bigli
Yeah adoption is an option but "in a family way" literally means pregnant.
True but telling the children implies.. well, any children really. But they might've added a different version of it, indeed. There are other scenarios where that has happened in the writing.

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Originally Posted by Illiti
i don't see how poly and sharing is healthy for her, i would think she would prefer stable relationship,

I'm staying out of this thread and these topics until I have a more complete experience of the game itself and can talk with less ignorance, but I did want to just wave a small representative hand here to say that these things are not, at all, mutually exclusive.

Intimate relationships involving more than two people are just that, and they can cover the spectrum of good to bad, healthy to unhealthy, the same as any other relationship can; most unhealthy ones fall apart quickly, because the need for good communication and consideration for and with your partners is multiplied. That larian chooses (or seems to be choosing, judging from other people's descriptions - as I mention, I've little first hand experience with the game yet) some of the most unhealthy, predatory and toxic stereotypes for polyamorous relationships turns what might have been welcome representation in media into another instance of destructive stereotyping that does more harm than good.

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Yeah there's plenty of healthy polyamorous relationships out there. It's important we remember to be respectful of that. When it comes to the game, I'm not too sure...

It's from my understanding that polyamory is about romantic relationships, rather than casual sex/open relationships being about sex only? So in a way, from what we've seen, neither SH or Halsin would be considered polyamorous at all.

In the Halsin forum, one of the complaints was how Halsin seemed to be disgusted with the word "relationship" which disappointed those who obviously want a relationship with him. So it all just screams casual to me. I'm no expert though.

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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
It's too bad you can only get that scene in such a specific way. That has to be a bug, surely. I always play female characters, so I wonder if that scene would still play, given they're same sex couple.

I wish there was a scene of the githyanki egg hatching (if you took it) with SH and MC having big smiles on their faces. It really feels like wasted potential. But then again, I could say that of a lot things in this game tbh lol
There is also some fun banter between Wyll and SH later in the game with specific conditions

Did not get it to play out myself, but I guess conditions should be saving her parents and let her talk to her father at camp about lycanthropy

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Which conditions would those be?

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Originally Posted by Netav
Originally Posted by Backinstyle
It's too bad you can only get that scene in such a specific way. That has to be a bug, surely. I always play female characters, so I wonder if that scene would still play, given they're same sex couple.

I wish there was a scene of the githyanki egg hatching (if you took it) with SH and MC having big smiles on their faces. It really feels like wasted potential. But then again, I could say that of a lot things in this game tbh lol
There is also some fun banter between Wyll and SH later in the game with specific conditions

Did not get it to play out myself, but I guess conditions should be saving her parents and let her talk to her father at camp about lycanthropy
I'm almost positive this one isn't in the game whether it was cut or bugged. I've tried on multiple occasions to get it to trigger and it never happens. Hell, I can't get her to banter with Wyll at all in act not just say that line

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