Originally Posted by Scales & Fangs
Use your imagination.

Now... you could argue that Viconia went back to her old ways or was brought back to life by Shar... Who knows.

I did tweak my head cannon of the D. Urge backstory to fit it with my story that he was the son of my main character (an elf) from BG3. I simply considered the version of the Butler to be pure manipulation to make him feel special. And maybe he was as his father was a very strong Bhaalspawn. Naturally, this Abdel Arian is just one more hero in my headcannon.


I personally found Viconia consistent with the Viconia I knew from BG1 and BG2. She is still one of my favourite character of the franchise and I let her go (my character let her go out of drow solidarity). I felt nothing for Sarevok in particular. I can't say I was very happy to see him back from the grave in BG2 but I could endure it

P.S. It would have been great if we got something for letting Viconia go.

Thank you. Now please imagine this:

In BG4, you meet the new demon lord Karlach in Nine Hells, a dear friend of Zariel. And the game tells you that her courage, pure heart, and kindness were all a facade in BG3, she is actually a very mean and evil person, who loves to kill and torture people, and always adores Zariel. The justification the game gives are "use your imagination" and "you could argue that Karlach went back to her old ways...who knows".

Allow me to ask again, what old ways?

Karlach being a golden retriever, Viconia refusing to hurt a child, and Sarevok treating Bhaal as simply a stepping stone, those were literally their origin stories, their very foundations. A bloodthirsty Karlach never existed, the writer made that shit up. And when a game needs you to use your headcanon to justify things, that means it was poorly written.

Of course one could say "well I never cared about Karlach so whatever", which is fair, though personally I won't call that person is really familiar with Karlach's character.

Last edited by SerTomato; 06/10/23 09:23 PM.