Originally Posted by Leikari
Originally Posted by fylimar
Ok, I forced myself through this tirade - basically, you can't be bothered to follow storylines ('boring dialogue'), can't be bothered to remember a single name (this companion, that companion, evil dude - very eloquent and ) and then you throw a temper tantrum, because things don't go your way and you don't like puzzles.
And in your very first thread you insult a mod and people who like the game.
I don't think, you should expect serious answers here any time soon.
This is a role playing game, there is a lot of dialogue involved, if you don't like it, the game is probably not for you - and I say that without insult. Tastes are different, maybe move on and try something else. I played Mass Effect too, but I prefer BG3 and I prefer actually, that the companion stories are tied to the main story.

You assume wrong. You mask your arguments in what I am, not what the game is. You do not know me or what my job/work is. My first sentence was that I liked the Act 1. I pretty much loved it and still do in way, but I do not want play it anymore, becouse I know what Act 2 and 3 are right now, until they maybe fix many issues in next year or years, when, if and maybe. So what I did in the post was how I descriped in my own way my experiance with Act 2 ending, where I lost my intrest for the game, in temple of Shar/Gauntlet of Shar and then I was critizising how Ketheric Throm section of the game took too long, you know it had too many battles, to kill one guy. Yeah, big boss, but still... To much battle. (If it would have just talking 30 minutes it would be more intersting than run around after him and kill him many times in different forms.) Also. I played and tried out Act 1 over 70 hours with different characters. (PS5). I remember the names, I just wrote that text in a way that there is no too much spoilers... That was the idea. Also it was just the style of that writing. But I can mention names. Spoilers incoming! Volo was the missing bard. Poor man. He was lost and I did not notice until 20 hours later. Not sure yet, was Disaperaring Volo a bug or not. (PS5 still.)

"And in your very first thread you insult a mod and people who like the game."

Did you read what the so called mod wrote me? I just slammed back to him. Thats all. Where did I insult the people who like the game? The people who liked the game, example the players who bought this game deserve much more what Larian Studions gave them. They gave those players good Act 1, who did they part in the heavy lifting in Early Access, but they/Larian Studios should have given a good whole game. Finnished product wrothy of full price. Every Actr should have been same quality than ACt 1, so maybe they should have relased this game in next year summer, not in this year.

"throw a temper tantrum"

Not correct. But if you would switch your argument to that I am taking this too personally, that it was just wasted 70 euroes, that can be true. But to me, just becouse book series is good in first book, it does not make the whole series good, so if the second book is bad, and 3 book maybe better (until too short ending), I have to think the book series as a whole. I can give it 10/10, if I honest and not just go with the popular opinion. To me it is dishonest of many reviewers to give this game 10/10, in this state. Example I would give 9/10 to act 1 and act 2 5/10 or maybe 6/10, becouse the beginning of Act 2 was pretty good and Halsin story line.

"This is a role playing game, there is a lot of dialogue involved, if you don't like it, the game is probably not for you - and I say that without insult"

I love dialogue heavy games, like Disco Elysium and BG3 dialogue was not bad a all. Like I said, I was critizising how that Evil Guy of Castle/Ketheric Throm did not die, in first battle and that story line was the poor section of the game. And also the lack of options of Shar Temple. Example how hard is to make more options, how to get one floor down? Just make a vine next to the Elevator, where you can put the rope or many ropes. Also, that Evil Necromancer character - that was more intresting and had better dialogue if you went bad/evil route - why did he did not have any magic stones? Like what was he doing all the time there alone with his skeleton possy? Just fighting? If I would make changes for Act 2 to make this game what could it be... And what was promised in Act 1 and not delivired in Act 2... Example I would reward players who does all the puzzles in Gauntlet of Shar, but I would also give option to talk/persuasive checks, and other ways to get yourself down to the other floor, to get trought the Door, example getting couple magic stones from the Evil Necromancer (if you win him over with words or do a quest for him). In KOTOR 1, what I already mentioned have those kind of game sections like the whole planet of Korriban. Korriban had puzzels (what rpg should have), but also you get the "influence points" with the place, many other ways, like tortuning a prisoner. But it is true in your response that I do not like puzzles, but I think CRPGS and other rpgs shoud have those, to the players who likes them, and good rewards for doing them, like better items. I can see the difference of what I like and what is quality, that you do not seem to see, that is proven in that if you can only just attack against me and do arguments against my arguments.

So if you or someone else are done of making me just look bad, try make some good arguments about the GAME. We can example focus in one area of the game, like the Gauntlet of Shar, that I already mentioned. There are many ways to improve example this weak section of the game, that is in the rails too much. So in your opinion, where am I am exacly wrong in my points? Example is it to your opinion, is it good way to make/design companion quests... Like that companion moment I told (spoiler alert!) like what happened to me with Shadowheart, when she tried to kill me, becouse I did not do her the quest in the Gauntlet of Shar rigth then when she wanted?

Also. Epilogue quality of a CRPGS means a lot. I example checked out how many PS5 players have finnished the BG3, it was around 7 prosent last time I checked. Have you finnished the game? Were you happy with it? And again. I am trying to be careful to not say spoilers.

I don't have to make you look bad - you do the heavy lifting yourself. The mod was pointing out, that your wall of text was hard to read - it is politeness no structure longer texts.
And Volo disappears after a while, you will meet him later, or not, since it doesn't sound, as if you playing further.

As I said, it is personal taste in the end - you didn't like the game from act 2 onwards - fine, then our arguments stand: the game just isn't for you. I happen to love act 2 and act 3 and a lot of otehr people too. SO coming to a BG3 forum, telling the people to not buy the game full price, because you didn't like it from a certain point onwards is just ... not a good move.
Just saying, that it is bad quality, because you didn't like the structure of the Gauntlet and Ketehric Thorms fight is objectively wrong.
You don't like certain quests, so they are automatically bad. It comes back to what everyone is saying to you: your personal taste, the game clearly isn't for you. I gave up on Mass Effect at the end of teh second game, because I found a lot of stuff repetetive. I'm not going to the Bioware forums and warn people to buy Mass Effect, because I know, that a lot of people see it differently.

Last edited by fylimar; 06/10/23 10:02 PM.

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