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The line suggests that SH might be pregnant with wolf cubs? I'm not understanding the context... please tell me it doesn't involve Halsin or imma vomit

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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
The line suggests that SH might be pregnant with wolf cubs? I'm not understanding the context... please tell me it doesn't involve Halsin or imma vomit
No, her father is werewolf. If you save her parents you can chose her and talk with her father in camp, there is an option to ask "If you are werewolf, does that mean that I can be one too?", he will respond that chances are 50/50, but she hasnt shown any sympthoms yet, so he is 99% positive that she is normal.
So I guess its more of a funny thing Wyll acknowledging that and commenting on Tav/SH relationship (because if she is werewolf that means that her kids have 50/50 chances aswell. "Our friend" line usually refers to Tav in banters)

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Ohhh I see, yeah I remember hearing about SH father being a werewolf too. That's really funny. Though I don't understand how everybody knows everyone's business lol Like even things behind closed doors everyone knows about?

I considered it being because of the tadpoles but Halsin, Jaheira and Minsc don't have them so I dunno. And I thought Shadowheart valued being discreet lmao

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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
Every patch they fail to fix this, we need to file a bug report. Maybe if enough of us keep pestering them they'll actually do something. Let's not give up just yet
Surely at this point we could attempt Reddit post with in-depth analysis of the problem. It wouldnt hurt, right?

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I found another workaround if you want Halsin around for his role in the story in act 1 and 2, but don't want his creepy and disturbing presence in act 3:

After he rescues Thaniel from the Shadowfell, but before you re-unite Thaniel with Oliver, you can kill Halsin and he remains permanently dead and cannot be resurrected. But you will still lift the Shadow Curse after defeating Ketheric. My party is now happily moving along towards Baldur's Gate with Halsin somewhere in a crate at the Last Light Inn and he won't bother anyone in act 3.

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I dunno there's a lot of Halsin simps on there and they don't take too kindly to us in those parts. But you can definitely try. Hopefully they'll be willing to listen to reason this time, though I'm not counting on it tbh.

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I'll have to do that in my next playthrough. I killed him in the goblin camp so unfortunately won't be lifting the shadow curse. The barrel idea is brilliant. Halsins corpse has just been lying around in the middle of camp lol

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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
I dunno there's a lot of Halsin simps on there and they don't take too kindly to us in those parts. But you can definitely try. Hopefully they'll be willing to listen to reason this time, though I'm not counting on it tbh.
So they support his "predatory" behaviour regardless of player's choice? Where is the voice of reason ?

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Originally Posted by Netav
Originally Posted by Backinstyle
Every patch they fail to fix this, we need to file a bug report. Maybe if enough of us keep pestering them they'll actually do something. Let's not give up just yet
Surely at this point we could attempt Reddit post with in-depth analysis of the problem. It wouldnt hurt, right?
I would say there is more sense to leave feedback via Larian official resources, like support tickets or their discord feedback channel. Posts like this usually don't do well on Reddit anyway.

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Not all of us, thank you. But we get slaughtered for pointing out the issues.

No, Larian, I did not order a toxic romance under the guise of insincere "consent".

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I can try to create post in reddit later maybe. Im just shit at formatting and english is not my native language.

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Let me know if you need help.

Be careful though. I pointed out that Halsin was a toxic representation and somehow got branded a homophobe.

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There are numerous fetishes Halsin represents and some people find him hot. They don't care if the situations makes sense. They like that it's a porn game. Some people are very shallow.

When we bring up an issue, they lose their minds and become very protective.

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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
There are numerous fetishes Halsin represents and some people find him hot. They don't care if the situations makes sense. They like that it's a porn game. Some people are very shallow.

When we bring up an issue, they lose their minds and become very protective.
There are a lot of points that can be discussed around this situation like behaviour out of character or lack of agency in solo Halsin's romance ending, but 1 point is just undeniable in my opinion is that you cant stop his "advancements" by outright telling him "NO"(other than killing him somehow).

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No digs at others, please. That includes calling people who have different preferences than you do “shallow”. Or anyone who disagrees with the assessment that the behaviour shown by Halsin is toxic a “simp”.

Please try to keep this discussion friendly and open to differing points of view. As a neutral observer who doesn’t have strong feelings about Shadowheart or Halsin, I feel it’s in danger of becoming an echo chamber where anyone who might have a different view than a number of vocal and repetitive posters is shouted down and excluded. Let’s avoid that.


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I definitely don't disagree with you. Unfortunately, there's a lot of Halsin fans that only seem to care about the superficial. They have a big bear man they can have orgies with and that's all that matters to them.

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Originally Posted by Netav
Originally Posted by Backinstyle
There are numerous fetishes Halsin represents and some people find him hot. They don't care if the situations makes sense. They like that it's a porn game. Some people are very shallow.

When we bring up an issue, they lose their minds and become very protective.
There are a lot of points that can be discussed around this situation like behaviour out of character or lack of agency in solo Halsin's romance ending, but 1 point is just undeniable in my opinion is that you cant stop his "advancements" by outright telling him "NO"(other than killing him somehow).

Yes, include my breakdown from the other thread with the obvious connections to rape culture:

1. He acts as if he is entitled to sex and takes rejection as a personal insult
2. He assumes consent and approaches sexual discussions with the mindset that everyone's default state is that they want to have sex with him
3. He persists trying to convince people to have sex after they have said no, switching from jovial charm to other more manipulative and insidious tactics
4. He blames his victim for making him horny and gaslights them by re-framing previous interactions as them leading him on

I really can't deal with the condescending nature of reddit-culture, as you may have seen I don't respond well to such tone. But feel free to make use of my feedback and comments, I think they are very clear and written to be undeniably factual (feel free to disagree though).

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* Ahem *


Originally Posted by The Red Queen
No digs at others, please. That includes calling people who have different preferences than you do “shallow”. Or anyone who disagrees with the assessment that the behaviour shown by Halsin is toxic a “simp”.

Please try to keep this discussion friendly and open to differing points of view. As a neutral observer who doesn’t have strong feelings about Shadowheart or Halsin, I feel it’s in danger of becoming an echo chamber where anyone who might have a different view than a number of vocal and repetitive posters is shouted down and excluded. Let’s avoid that.

Originally Posted by Backinstyle
I definitely don't disagree with you. Unfortunately, there's a lot of Halsin fans that only seem to care about the superficial. They have a big bear man they can have orgies with and that's all that matters to them.


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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
I definitely don't disagree with you. Unfortunately, there's a lot of Halsin fans that only seem to care about the superficial. They have a big bear man they can have orgies with and that's all that matters to them.
But as it stands "mono" players are actual victims at this point, because even with proposed changes it wouldnt change anything for this type of players.
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I found another workaround if you want Halsin around for his role in the story in act 1 and 2, but don't want his creepy and disturbing presence in act 3:

After he rescues Thaniel from the Shadowfell, but before you re-unite Thaniel with Oliver, you can kill Halsin and he remains permanently dead and cannot be resurrected. But you will still lift the Shadow Curse after defeating Ketheric. My party is now happily moving along towards Baldur's Gate with Halsin somewhere in a crate at the Last Light Inn and he won't bother anyone in act 3.
Just tested and there is reliable workaround to remove him from your group at the start of act3. Just bully him out with melee attacks till he leaves.
It was hillarious, I unequipped my weapon(since im fighter) and just repedeatly hit him with my unarmed strike while continuously healing him with SH until he got mad and left permanently. Every 3 hits his approval drops by 10, at -50 he left.

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It comes down to compromise and not everyone is willing to.

Lol that definitely works but it's more fun to kill him in my opinion. I set him on fire the other day, it was hilarious.

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