Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion Shadowheart Romance and the Hidden Fetish - (Spoilers inside)

Not about Shadowheart per se, but there's a A LOT of posts about Halsin and his problems (and how it affects SH etc too) on the Discord. And to be fair, most of the problems regarding SH is in large due to Halsin being problematic and his execution flawed. So if anyone from Larian is reading the feedback posts there (which I assume they are since they shaved the cat pretty quick after "the outrage"), they know what people think about Halsin and they would also see how this topic gets more thumbs up than any other posts there. They're just keeping quiet about it.

I made a feedback post on discord regarding this topic. I know not everyone agrees with the shar/selunite option. It's not that selunites would be necessarily against casual sex, it's more about SH's state of mind depending on which path she takes. It's no secret that shar SH is more confident than the selunite one, given the story direction and implications.

I also noted a more general option to be able to discuss boundaries and consent with SH.

If you agree, and have discord, please upvote. It's titled Shadowheart no Halsin. Thank you.

Great post, upvoted it.

I made a mistake posting this:


In BG3 Act 3 discussion, all I've got was cuck replies (images with cuck written on them), no discussion or anything like like that.

Yeah Larian's Discord much like reddit is a cesspool.
Instead of having a real discussion about it people would rather belittle you by calling you a cuck, incel, etc.

Okay folks, let's not start having a go at other communities. After all, a number of us are members of those too. If people are responding inappropriately to posts (and frankly I think calling anyone a "cuck" is unacceptable) please report it to the moderators for those forums and leave the unpleasantness there rather than importing it here.

I am one of those, This weird a$$ old unattractive dude hitting on and taking muh girl, camp. I don't like him and his shoehorn in our camp.
Idc if SH wants Karlach, but from act 1 to act 2 I've heard SH didn't like Halsin much either...
Seems suspicious tbh.

Ok yes, sure but I've seen the topic brought up multiple times on that Discord and that's always the way it goes.

As I've edited my post above to say, I'd recommend using the Discord reporting functionality to alert moderators to users resorting to personal insults.

Hey thanks for the upvote, I appreciate it!

Part of the issue I have with Halsin, is how I take a backseat in my relationship with SH when he's around. And that's not even taking into account the orgy, where you literally are forced to watch. So yeah, we kinda do become cucks in the relationship so it's no surprise that they're calling us that. I don't personally want that for my relationship though.

I hate how heavily it is implied in this "scene". I truly want to be believe that Halsin is just bugged, because it would be ok if you were in romance with both(Because SH basically lets you to "cuck" her with Halsin and there you just return the "favor"), but if you do it without romancing him... yeah

I think they were going for a voyeurist/exhibitionist thing in that scene. But I just don't see SH being an exhibitionist given her nature. One of the things she values most "is being discreet" according to the circus dryad answers. So it's unlikely she would want a bunch of ppl watching her.

It's just nonsensical porn, just for the sake of it. And I still believe Halsin (the one in acts 1/2 anyway) wouldn't take advantage of her like that if she were to go selunite path.

I'm of the opinion that everything would work better if nothing had Halsin in it.

Fwiw it's not like you have to let Halsin join in, you can still decline him even though you have to accept all the implications afterward (the retarded disapproval). It's just that the entire scenario and everything around it is bad writing.

The best part is, you can just kill Halsin on the spot after that dialogue and literally nobody cares, not companions or NPCs. NPCs care if you kill a random refugee, but Halsin? They won't even bat an eye. Now THAT is good writing! But then Orin will kidnap someone relevant which is a shame. So eh, just never bring him along anywhere and Orin will take out the trash for you.

She isn't at all. She doesn't even want to share a bottle of wine with anyone but you in act 1, if you suggest sharing it with more. She's also wondering what others will think after the swimming scene, since she knows she can't hide it having happened. And she wants your children, lol. I don't think someone's going to fuck around, or want you to fuck around, if they want kids with you. He's written her consistently enough in that regard, except these couple of scenarios.

I also don't think Halsin would go back on his word saying that he'll respect our decision either, considering he knows we can just murder him (especially as Dark Urge). But that's all just hypothetical, the game isn't even remotely that detailed, especially the low MMORPG quality act 3.

I have not watched the scene myself nor do I intend to but I have seen people talk about it and it is my understanding that even with Halsin participating in the orgy you are not being cucked unless you want it. The game gives you dialogue options to sit back and watch and she actively encourages you to knock it off and get involved.

I haven't watched it myself either but a lot of people have talked about it. This is the first time I'm hearing you actually have a choice in it. I still think the scene is nonsensical porn though.

As I've said, Shar SH would most likely be into it but I just don't see Selunite SH.

Considering Shar SH never even has sex with you until the very end and even then in only 1 of 2 outcomes, it actually makes even less sense there. Nobody's going to share someone they haven't even had themselves yet. Does she even accept the drows as Sharran? Because that would be hilarious, in a bad way.

The SH we get in act 1 and most of act 2 is kind of in-between Shar/selune I think. What I mean by Shar SH is her full embrace of Shar and her teachings in act 3. Have you seen the sex scene for evil SH? It's very aggressive lol

Though I believe that scene happens after evil SH kills her parents? So that means she goes even longer without having sex with Tav. And at that point she sees you as casual too anyway.

If she sees you and Halsin as both casual then I don't see why she wouldn't share, even if she hasn't slept with you yet.

That's what I mean. She takes her sweet time for something supposedly casual. Literally not until the very end of the game and even then she needed to think of an excuse to do so. I thought it was meant to be encouraged, not something you need an excuse for? And during the epilogue, she calls it an exception. Why would there be an exception for casual sex that is encouraged?

Ah, right, the only time it's mentioned that it's casual and encouraged is after the Mizora scene. At which point she acts out of character. Clearly we shouldn't consider everything written there as an inconsistency and not at all in line with the rest of the dialogue? /s

I've read somewhere, that you go Shar route (kill Nightsong), she is against sharing, she rejects orgy or maybe Halsin, didn't try it so i don't know, maybe whoever posted it was lying.

You're right it's very inconsistent. I would have expected post nightsong killing/pre parents killing shar SH to be DTF as quickly as Selunite SH.