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Originally Posted by GloriousZote
Originally Posted by Gray Ghost
You can argue that its not the right approach, but it'd very much what Larian intended, and they're going for a pretty tried and true trope. I think they specifically want you to be in a situation where you have to join up with characters you ordinarily wouldn't if you had a free choice. You're free to dislike that approach but I don't think it's a flaw, it's just a game design choice that some people will like more than others do.
Of course, this is all my opinion, some may disagree, but I'm still free to speak my mind, and I personally think that this design takes away from my "freedom of choice" I suppose, without feeling like I'm just being stupid in some cases.

I don't think it takes away your freedom.

I'm my case, I didn't let Astarion join because he put a knife on my neck.

I didn't want Wyll close to me because of his devil problems.

I didn't let Karlach join because she's asking me to kill people when I don't even know her.

Gale was stuck on a portal, so to me he's not a good wizard.

The only reasonable choice is Lae'zel, and SH if you free her.

But at the end of the day, it's just player choice, especially if you're role-playing.

Maybe what you wanted was something similar to DOS2 where you can talk with the possible companions and 'get to know them a bit before choosing?

Edit: Only exception I know is Halsin, which is forced to join you (something I really dislike).

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Originally Posted by GloriousZote
Originally Posted by fylimar
The whole point of our group is the imminent thread from the tadpoles. I think that is a good way to get people so different to work together.
And even so, I actually killed Astarion a few times in EA, because he attacked me unprovoked. I still need a very nice chatacter to let him go away with it. Lae'zel is not friendly, but she is practical and honest with you from the beginning. Still, without the tadpole threat and knowing about githyanki, I would probably leave her alone.
I think Shadow revealing who she is, is a big deal too. She serves one of the most evil goddesses, who demands vile things of her followers, that is hard to swallow. By the time, she reveals it, my character is usually already on good terms with her, but it still is a lot.
I think without the tadpole reason, my characters would not necessarily team up with Lae'zel and Karlach and might have trouble, trusting Shadow after her reveal. That would leave Wyll, Karlach, Jaheira and Minsc. Halsin would be kicked out, for being an annoying sex maniac.
And so you would have a choice of who you want to take with you, my choice would be different, I'd probably keep Lae'zel to tag along, same with both Wyll and Karlach after clearing up the entire situation, which if you just hear Karlach out and do some quick research is pretty easy. I'd be way more inclined to tell Gale to piss off if it weren't for our mutual crisis, too, but I know others wouldn't, given he is a very kind person.
I don't know if you intended it, but you proved my point exactly, even without the imminent threat, I think it's possible to form a group of unlikely allies.

You confuse me. I thought, this thread was a what if scenario. Which companions make the most sense to pick without a life-threatening scenario? I like Lae'zel a lot, but as a more or less knowledgeable inhabitant of Faerun, I would know that githyanki are normally hostile,so if I wouldn't have been forced to work together with Lae'zel like in that scenario in the mind flayer ship, I probably wouldn't approach her, because of the githyankis bad reputation. I as a player love to have Lae'zel in my group, but were I someone from Faerun and would just happen to meet her, I would run. And she wouldn't be very friendly either.
Gale on the other hand is friendly and approachable. I'm trying to be realistic here, without meta knowledge of the companions


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Lae'zel and Astarion are good to have around in a dangerous situation, Shadowheart can heal, the rest can tag along because strength in numbers. Halsin needs to pay rent tho.

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