Originally Posted by Gray Ghost
Originally Posted by Blackheifer
Originally Posted by Leucrotta
Originally Posted by Blackheifer
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Oh wow, so now we're not only 'selfish', but we apparently must have never got over prepubescent fixations with her to not agree with you. And both psychopaths and sociopaths to boot, of course. Do go on Freud.

I'll be honest, that's some super uncomfortable fixation and speculation on the sex habits of Viconia's fanbase, btw. Really inappropriate to be going into detail about some strawman fantasy over detractors masturbating over Viconia, I think most people would agree. If you ever actually hoped to convince anyone to come around to your way of seeing things, It's probably fair to say you blew it right there.
 
You know, considering how vehement you seem to be that anyone who doesn't like the writing for this character must be some sort of obsessive, the fact that you immediately pivoted to insulting everyone who didn't agree with you in every way imaginable shows you might be more than a little fixated yourself. Clearly you don't have any great fondness for the character yourself, so maybe you should reflect on why exactly are you so invested in 'proving' that Larian's way of going about it was the right one I wonder. Like of all things, this is what gets you worked up?

It's a plausible interpretation of characters like Viconia that they are a test of maturity and equanimity. She is written to appeal to certain immature fantasies. But not to worry, people can learn from their mistakes - or so I am told - probably no one HERE but I am sure they exist somewhere.

I am not saying she is any feat of great writing, and I never made that argument. Viconia is a trap for the above stated. I happen to think it's a trap most people fell into and never gained the Wisdom to walk away from.

Do you really not see the irony and hypocrisy of saying this and then right after...

Originally Posted by Blackheifer
Don't assume you understand anything about me. Stop projecting your nonsense onto me.

To say this? If not then I would advice everyone else in this thread to just ignore him and continue having a potentially interesting and constructive conversation amongst themselves. I can't speak to any sort of characterization from the original games but the confidence to make that sort of sweeping statement ie not conducive to constructive, enriching conversation.

Try going after the argument and not me. I know it's tempting but do lets at least give it the ol college try. Eh?

Although there really isn't a counter, this entire discussion is predicated on a ridiculous falsehood - that Viconia is fucking King Leer or some shit when she is obviously just simpy male wank fantasy crap.

OH NO, you ruined garbage Larian, how dare you?! What doest thou have to say for thyself.

F's in chat for Viconia!

Last edited by Blackheifer; 10/10/23 06:09 AM.

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