Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion A companion named Helia who did not make it into the game

He is staying in camp to get abducted in my case. Ireallydon't see, why we need a companion, that brings nothing to the table in act 3, but creepy oversexualized behavior (but that is for another thread).
Inseatd they could have go with a bit more variety.

Halsin's approach to sex neither bothers me nor interests me. I feel sad that the Halsin fans were disappointed. Jaheria is a well written character and I don't need another druid in the party.

Helia doesn't sound very interesting to me - most werewolf stories are meditations on the nature of masculinity and that's not a topic that interests me very much. I would like more good aligned companions in the game and I would like Jaheria and Minsc to show up earlier but Helia's story doesn't intrigue me

Helia is female so I doubt tehre would be any 'meditations on masculinity' and the game desperately needs companions from the smaller races.
And I think, Helia was supposed to be good aligned.

Fylimar hit the nail on the head, I'll say that Helia is suppose to be as good and heroic as Karlach and Minsc on the alignment Chart, I would place Helia in Chaotic Good alongside Karlach.

Fylimar hit the nail on the head, I'll say that Helia is suppose to be as good and heroic as Karlach and Minsc,

On the Alignment Chart I would place Helia in Chaotic Good alongside Karlach.

We would see. I think men's puberty is the archetype (hair grows everywhere, bursts of anger, ravenous appetite) but we would have to see how Larian altered that. I think the movie Ginger Snaps tried to alter the archetype to apply to adolescent girls but I never saw it.

https://euppublishing.com/doi/abs/10.3366/gothic.2019.0005

https://auntymuriel.com/2014/09/27/masculinity-and-metaphor-in-teen-wolf/


I do think the game needs more good companions . . .

Don't women also have hair growing everywhere (less so than men of course) and bursts of anger (especially around a certain time of the month) too during puberty?,

I don't think it can just be applied to males.

Yes but it's matter of degree for most women. Beards, chest hair, thick brows and the like are seen as masculine and some cis women take great pains to remove body hair - especially facial hair. It wasn't that long ago that women capable of growing a full beard were circus attractions. (and were something of a 3rd gender)

From the reviews I read it seems that Ginger Snaps did deal with menstruation . . .

Edit: to be clear I'm only explaining why werewolves don't interest me much. Of course it's possible to write a character that defies type or to subvert the archetype.

It is the working theory shared by myself and a few others that Halsin is, in fact, not an elf at all. He's actually the former animal companion of a previous arch druid - an Awakened Bear. He has learned to use wild shape, which he uses to assume the form of an Elf - or at least his best ursine approximation of one. This is why he's such an incredibly Shit druid, who can only do one wild shape (it's jsut him reverting to normal), when wildshaping is a novice druid skill, and why even then he both A) claims he cannot control himself properly when in the wild shape, despite it also being a novice acolyte level thing that you retain your full mental and emotional faculties when assuming an animal form, and B) why he apparently can lose control of himself and 'accidentally' shift into bear form when he gets over-excited. It explains why his capabilities as an arch-druid are extremely lacking and he doesn't have anything near the level of competency or spell-craft that an archdruid should have.

It all makes perfect sense really. Halsin is actually an awakened bear, using wildshape to pretend to be an elf.

I mean, let's face it, Halsin is a shit character after act 2 and doesn't make sense as an archdruid. If I makes druid, she is more competent than Halsin. I like your idea, it would make sense. I thought, he would turn out to be a werebear, after Helia wasn't implemented, but that too was wrong. He is just really bad at his job.

Killer rabbit: I get, that one might be sick of certain tropes, I' m sick and tired of vampires of the Twilight and beyond era. Those are not vampires. I rolled my eyes hard when Astarion was introduced,though he is a bit better than the Twilight crap. I only can endure him in smaller doses though.

I don't think, that the werewolf thing had to necessarily be Helias main stick, it could have to do with all kinds of different things. A user ( Cowoline) made the suggestion to tie her to the hag storyline for example. I always wondered, if the halfling girl, you can save in the teahouse, was supposed to be Helia.

Seems like good idea to use him to do the portal thing and reunite the 2 halves before killing him and stuffing his corpse in a crate before doing the Boss fight in Act 2.

Makes sense that Helia would be at the hags to cure herself, however I figured Helia would be smarter to not make a deal with Ethel, Hag deals are monkey paws, plus given her Lycantropy she would've sniffed out Ethel's true nature before, she even transformed into a Hag.

Sai the elf: That might be exactly, why she was going to Ethel. Hats are powerful and I think, if you are really lucky, they are even helpful.
The halfling girl in the hags lair is there because of her sick mother, but the question is, if they had change it and if we would have just knock her unconscious, if it would be Helia ( like with the Minsc recruitment).
Maybe we found out beforehand, that she needs help and can be saved somehow.

I'm now avoiding knocking out characters, I knocked out Mayrina's brothers and the game still treated it as if I killed them, despite telling her, that they're alive, I learned that knocking out characters treats it as murder.

That is true, but in the quest to recruit Minsc it was a mechanism to get him later as companion.

Halsin instead of Helia is a dark timeline indeed.

I totally agree, he is doubling down on things already there ( elf's and druids) - and better even in the form of awesome Jaheira-, and he is creepy as hell and has nothing going for him in act 3, but his sex stuff. Helia on the other hand would have been unique and interesting.

I played The One Ring today with a group and I was a hobbit adventurer and that reminded me, how awesome the smaller folks were in Tolkiens work. I loved Gimli and Sam was the hero of the story, who basically carried his friend to the most dangerous place in Middle Earth. I want such an epic character as companion tbh and yes, it has to be halfling
No, seriously, after today, I had to think again, how great Helia' would have been.

Yeah it's a shame that they decided to appeal to the horniest people to sell the game, credit to them that it worked.

This is not entirely on Larian. I mean, look at the posts here sometimes - people even want to bang that drider .
It is around since BioWare introduced romances back in the day.
I personally could do with less romances and more honest friendship paths. I found for example the Astarion friendship with my little halfling girl totally adorable. Or that you can help Gale through a panic attack or talk to Shadowheart about her trauma. Lot of good stuff already there.
I want Helia as a companion, because I think she would have been an awesome addition to the cast and could have been a great companion to have around.y first look is never, if the character should be romanceable, but if a character is interesting and should have more interaction.
Take Raphael- for me, he is the best villain in the game next to Auntie Ethel. Unlike a lot of people, I think it would take away from him, would he be a romance option. He should stay that mysterious devil in the corner, who could be your last hope or the nail to your coffin and you don't know potentially until the end, what his intentions are. Just great writing here.

Yeah I know, I just hate that it worked.