Originally Posted by Michieltjuhh
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idk I kinda just still disagree with you.

Like I said, you don't have to read the first one as familiarity, what I'm saying is that running into the second one then lends more implication of it to the first one. And that's just good writing for a game heavily predicated on choices as far as I'm concerned. There's no reason for her to be specific that first time but getting to know more later can change the contextual reading and that's great. I feel like I already covered the content in the game I think works together for this to make sense so being more specific about why you don't think there's enough isn't going to change my mind. I feel like discussion between us has kinda run its course now. Mostly wanted to add my takes in here on the off-chance any of this makes it back to the writers as feedback anyway.

Originally Posted by Backinstyle
Wyll flirts with her sure but thats not the same as having casual sex. So what you're saying is, is that she's open to casual sex as long as she isn't the one initiating it? That's very different from lae'zel, who is more than happy initiating it herself.

So she just simply doesn't have the confidence to initiate casual sex on her own? She's not even comfortable having sex with the player until late in the game, but then suddenly has the confidence to ask Halsin to join in the next day?

No, I don't buy it. If anything it just sounds like she needs comfortabilty with someone before having sex with them. Everything you're saying just sounds very convenient to allow the player to do whatever they want with her. And there's no problem allowing that as optional choice for players. But let's not pretend like all of this is her canon story and makes any sense from what is shown to us throughout her main story/romance. She has only ever shown interest in being with the player only.
I know it isn't the same. I was explaining one of the most blatant reasons why she doesn't engage in it with the others. And no, it doesn't necessarily mean she lacks the confidence to, that's not the same as initiative. But it's clear that once she's happier and achieved her personal goal for your relationship, namely getting you for herself first, she's a lot more willing to take personal initiative. A good example is the Shar route scene regardless of any disagreement about what that means, she wants that for herself and initiates it which she does not do at any point earlier. When you broach the discussion with the twins you find out she also has an interest. It's all predicated on whether she's already got enough of what she wants to take initiative for more or not, and it's still limited to things you show interest in that she shares that interest in.

Last edited by Auric; 11/10/23 05:53 PM.