Originally Posted by The Red Queen
It is not even slightly okay to accuse other forum members of this. No more please.
Already mentioned it in DM but you are correct, it was out of line no matter how I meant it. Apologies to Auric for that one.

Originally Posted by Auric
owheart writes him off. I was just discussing in those same posts how she pretty consistently lacks personal initiative. The only time she displays any at all is once you've already made her quite happy and more of an open book in your relationship, at which point she shows more confidence in asserting what she wants for herself. And again it runs through your choices, she only takes initiative for something you first show a shared interest with her in (which is yet another reason the act 3 Halsin stuff has to be revamped). It makes the ACTUAL inconsistency with Karlach stand out all the more because SHE'S the one who seems totally accepting of poly with Shadowheart, only to find out the timing of game events makes it impossible to achieve because Larian didn't fully develop the concept (or Karlach's own personal quest which might have also changed things in Act 3).
She's the one that invites the PC to the first romance scene at the party. She's also the one inviting you to the beach scene in act 3. That's plenty of initiative. And while it's left to interpretation what happens with companions between one another (except at the party), we know she won't do anything with another there, and we know that both Lae'zel and Astarion know Shadowheart is not one to randomly screw around. Astarion calls your relationship sweet, but not interesting or passionate. Lae'zel says she'll bore you with endless conversation. As for the Karlach situation, the argument that "they ran out of time to make her into a proper companion so she won't do poly/open" just sounds like an excuse. In act 2 they've written it very clearly that none of them want it, Karlach and Shadowheart included.
Originally Posted by Backinstyle
Given how she flirts with the other companions in the early acts, it wouldn't be entirely OOC for her to do so with Halsin. IF it wasn't after you've established a committed relationship with her and it didn't involve him offering to join in on your intimate moments.

She could have lightly flirted with him, like the others, before act 3 but she was too busy hating him in act 2. I wouldn't have cared much if she had flirted before tbh, as its clearly just for fun. But the timing in act 3, the way it involves a highly intimate moment between the two of you, just makes it awkward. They definitely need to get rid if that banter, as it just doesn't fit with the times.
I'd still not buy it because there's still no argument for her to only be interested in open with Halsin and not the rest. But at least it'd make more sense than it does now, which is none at all. Though, by the time Halsin becomes a companion, she's already quite set on wanting you and no one else.

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