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I can't decide on a class for him that would suit him best and be convenient to use. Firt i was dual wield dex Oathbreaker, but after multiclass and renewing the oath for ability respec i had a bug, second try was barbarian and i missed mostly of time even with reckless attack with 75-80% chance. What should I try for him? At the moment i look at something assasin-like due to his biography and past, but can't decide which class to pic and multiclass, i like shadowmonk, gloom stalker and assasin but i don't know which of them are available for multiclassing and will be good ad building, also i look on oathbreaker paladin but STR based and don't have plans of respec him, but can't decide which multiclass should i take. Also Warlock is good option but is it really work to do something like assasin warlock?

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Canonically Durge is a White Dragonborn Storm Sorcerer, however you can build him or her however you like.

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Assassin is most thematically on the nose for Dark Urge. Warlock doesn’t synergize great with rogue aside giving you a bit of utility magic, which is nice.

If you want to multiclass as an assassin, gloomstalker is the smartest choice.

If you want to be a monk, you’re better off picking thief over Assassin for your rogue subclass.

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Originally Posted by Sai the Elf
Canonically Durge is a White Dragonborn Storm Sorcerer, however you can build him or her however you like.
Do you have some evidance that that is canon class?

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Originally Posted by Warlocke
Assassin is most thematically on the nose for Dark Urge. Warlock doesn’t synergize great with rogue aside giving you a bit of utility magic, which is nice.

If you want to multiclass as an assassin, gloomstalker is the smartest choice.

If you want to be a monk, you’re better off picking thief over Assassin for your rogue subclass.
gloom stalker assasin is the most boring multiclass combination that ever exist in game. It's not the Skyrim where every build go to sneak archer

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Originally Posted by andriy
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Assassin is most thematically on the nose for Dark Urge. Warlock doesn’t synergize great with rogue aside giving you a bit of utility magic, which is nice.

If you want to multiclass as an assassin, gloomstalker is the smartest choice.

If you want to be a monk, you’re better off picking thief over Assassin for your rogue subclass.
gloom stalker assasin is the most boring multiclass combination that ever exist in game. It's not the Skyrim where every build go to sneak archer

I’m aware the game is not Skyrim.

If you wanted advice for flavor multiclass builds instead of efficiency multiclass builds then you should have at least hinted at that.

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Originally Posted by andriy
I can't decide on a class for him that would suit him best and be convenient to use. Firt i was dual wield dex Oathbreaker, but after multiclass and renewing the oath for ability respec i had a bug, second try was barbarian and i missed mostly of time even with reckless attack with 75-80% chance. What should I try for him? At the moment i look at something assasin-like due to his biography and past, but can't decide which class to pic and multiclass, i like shadowmonk, gloom stalker and assasin but i don't know which of them are available for multiclassing and will be good ad building, also i look on oathbreaker paladin but STR based and don't have plans of respec him, but can't decide which multiclass should i take. Also Warlock is good option but is it really work to do something like assasin warlock?


The way I see it there are 5 "roles" in an efficient 4 player group. A character/player can have more than 1 role.

Rogue Type (Monk, Bard, Rogue, Ranger)

Control/Healer (Cleric, Druid, Bard)

AOE DPS/Lore/Arcana (Wizard, Sorcerer, Bard, Warlock)

Tank DPS/Heavy, STR build - (Barbarian, Fighter, Ranger, Paladin)

Face Character - (Sorcerer, Paladin, Bard, Warlock, Rogue)

Bard is not good because it's amazing on the battlefield as far as damage done, but because they can fill SO many roles needed.


Now the classes you mentioned.

1. Gloomstalker - doesn't quite fit him since he is a city boy. Strong build, does lots of damage though.
2. Assassin would make sense for him of course, but honestly the assassin subclass is pretty terrible. There is really only 1 good rogue subclass - Thief. Frankly I would ditch the subclass and make a Fighter/Thief, as that would fit and he would be very strong on the battlefield and in a martial sense. Barbarian doesn't really fit the "cold methodical killer" mentality. Ranger doesn't fit his City background.
3. Shadow Monk - Frankly I love this build and the idea of this, as well as multiclassing it with Fighter- insanely strong/yet subdued. Nothing in bg3 kills as fast as a Monk, and having that ability to move through shadows and kill with your hands feels very dark urge. Assassin would also work here because the Monk side is so strong, but of course Thief is much better.
4. Assassin/Warlock isn't terrible but it also creates a strange conflict with you needing a patron but also being a Dark urge? I don't see it working really canonically. Although Pact Weapon/Assassin may be fairly strong.


I'd go with the Shadowmonk build and throw fighter in there.


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Just play 5 Warlock (Blade Pact) / 7 Paladin (Oathbreaker)

Charisma to saves, damage, and attack rolls. 3 attacks per turn.

Take devils sight so you can fight in magical darkness.

You will be the ultimate assassin, fighting in shadows and capable of demolishing bosses with crit smites (100 damage an attack on crit).

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Originally Posted by andriy
Originally Posted by Sai the Elf
Canonically Durge is a White Dragonborn Storm Sorcerer, however you can build him or her however you like.
Do you have some evidance that that is canon class?

The Durge literally starts as a male white dragonborn storm sorcerer. ANd I think, in Murders at BG the Durge is a white dragonborn sorcerer too.


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Originally Posted by Sai the Elf
Canonically Durge is a White Dragonborn Storm Sorcerer, however you can build him or her however you like.
No Canonically Durge is Zariel Tiefling, Sorlock.


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It just doesn't matter.

Make up whatever role you want and play it that way. Use whatever class/race you want.

I'm finishing a DU run with Half-orc Champion

DU, by the way, is the best story line in the game

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Originally Posted by Myhthreindeer
It just doesn't matter.

Make up whatever role you want and play it that way. Use whatever class/race you want.

I'm finishing a DU run with Half-orc Champion

Well obviously you are wrong! The right way to play Durge is a sorcadin. biggrin


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DU, by the way, is the best story line in the game

With this I agree. Better than basic Tav at least.

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There is no fundamental difference of how you make a "The Dark Urge" character or a regular character.

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Originally Posted by andriy
Originally Posted by Sai the Elf
Canonically Durge is a White Dragonborn Storm Sorcerer, however you can build him or her however you like.
Do you have some evidance that that is canon class?
The canon race/class would be the default for the Dark Urge character, which means a male White Dragonborn with the Sorcerer class. I don't remember which bloodline is picked by default for Durge, but that'd be the one.

We have a good reason to think that the Durge canonically is exactly as its default because
we find his body in Orin's chambers in the Temple of Bhaal if we play another origin.


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IMO, a close and personal melee class makes most sense as the Dark Urge: - Rogue, Fighter, Barb, Monk.

But there is only one true fit - and it is a Rogue, especially Assassin, because
in Gortash Journal it is described how he and Dark Urge robbed house of wonders, and also stole the crown of karsus from the hells. Also, a Dark Urge specific cloak gives you invisibility on kill - perfect for sneak attack. With this cloak my Rogue playthrough was ezmode from start to finish. If you wanna go full BHAAL mode - of course it's an Assassin. Bhaals Chosen are Assassins, simple as that

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