I think at this point we're all just kind of defensive. It's one thing when we got general different opinions, it's even a whole other thing to disagree on, uh, our methods and chances of succeeding, but remembering that for people on the outside it may seem like we're just demanding a happy ending for the heck of it and whining is frustrating.

So naturally everyone feels the need to reiterate that it's not that shallow, in fact, even if we sort of got our point across already laugh

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