Yes, it wasn't implied because it isn't the case. In my reply to other poster I said that there is nothing in game indicating that she needs or even wants an open relationship, only that she isn't opposed to the idea ONLY if her partner is ok with it too. She considers your relationship exclusive by default and seems perfectly happy with it. She would never do anything to hurt her true love.
As you didn't touch on this subject again, I'll reply to this.
She has declined every other attempt from the player to start an open relationship with her. This has happened up to 5 times by the time Halsin shows up. Her dialogue when you suggest an open relationship with any of the other companions sets in stone that she wants a monogamous relationship with you.
This is her reply if you ask for it with Wyll: Shadowheart: In truth, I don't think I'd want to be your spare lover. I'd always want more of you than you'd have to spare. Better perhaps to bow out with dignity.
That's pure monogamy talk. It doesn't even imply that she doesn't want to share, she says she doesn't want to share. The fact that we even suggest an open relationship after that should make her wonder if we had amnesia, considering she's made it very clear she doesn't want it and yet we bring it up again. I think a -50 approval would be way more in character because of how inconsiderate the player is of her decision to keep the relationship closed. The Halsin situation is therefore completely out of character for her, and the game gives no explanation whatsoever as to why it's suddenly different now.
Originally Posted by Frog001
Sure, she says "Now there's an idea..." upon hearing drows proposal. All that means is that she says her opinion on the matter before you say yours. It's a discussion. She isn't pushing and if you refuse she won't disapprove (like I said disapproval over Halsin specifically was a bad call from the devs).
The suggestive tone in her voice shows serious interest. There are a lot of people who don't like saying no to their love interest (or anyone they care about for that matter) when they show interest in doing something, especially people more insecure. They don't want to disappoint the other. That's what happens here. In fact, the writers even know this, because you can do that exact thing to Gale. You can pressure him into accepting through a persuasion check, and while I don't know the exact words used there, I see this as Shadowheart rolling a persuasion check on the player. Some people will be more inclined to accept.
They had relationship experts for this kind of thing. I think those did an inadequate job in this scenario.
Originally Posted by Frog001
Forgot about that. But then again at this point player indicates some level of comfort with sharing. And while yes, it is an uncomfortable thought that your romantic partner sometimes may think of someone else, there is no indication that Shadowheart is going to act on it. If player doesn't say they are comfortable sharing, she will keep her thoughts to herself to not compromise what you two have.
There is a massive difference between being okay with (reluctantly, since she's the one who suggests it) sharing with prostitutes, and sharing with a travelling companion - a "friend". And her comment on dreaming of being with him in a threesome before she's even had sex with you alone is absolutely not okay in any way, shape or form.
Even if she thinks that way about him, supposedly wanting a threesome (it's out of character, lets not forget that), that's not something she's supposed to voice. That kind of thing is grounds for divorce/separation without a serious chat to explain 1. why 2. boundaries. But we don't get to talk to her about it, at all. If my spouse in real life were to suddenly tell me she's dreamt of a threesome with a friend of mine after that friend of mine suggests having one (or in this case, fivesome), I'm genuinely not sure how I would react but it wouldn't end positively. Add her (and him) showing disapproval and.. well, I don't think I'll ever want to see either again.
Originally Posted by Frog001
I'm not saying that her change of stance open reltaionships makes sense or I am opposed to Larian making changes discussed here. I am saying that you shouldn't allow it ruin your experience.
Don't worry. it hasn't for me, but I understand that it has for others. I just dislike inconsistent writing in general, even more so when it touches important subjects like this.
Originally Posted by Frog001
Sure, but this game already treats time passing and distance travelled very unrealistically. It certainly wouldn't be bad if it was coded to be 3 long rests after or something like that (or removed, again I'm not consdering this banter essential to the game)
I'm still against him suggesting it and her reply to it. Neither make sense, as he said he'd respect your decision and she has shown no interest in an open relationship with anyone else thus shouldn't be interested in one with Halsin without some serious explanation as to why she would be.
