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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
This subreddit has over 7000k upvotes. A lot of ppl don't care to have Halsin as a companion lol
https://reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/s/WyoQ0exyRN

Oh sure. I agree that lots of people are disappointed with Halsin. But I was talking about SH

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Wait how did you keep him from joining in Act 3?

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Honestly at this point, they should just add dialogue with SH(and other romanced companions) about setting up boundaries and what you expect in your relationship. Shadowheart is flexible so you should be able to chose both routes(mono and poly) and she should be ok with that. That way both groups of ppl would be happy. Maybe also change her reactions to certain situations(like mizora for example) based on chosen "route".

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Originally Posted by Ehhhh123
Wait how did you keep him from joining in Act 3?

He's there in camp but you don't need to take him into four person party at any point.

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Originally Posted by Ehhhh123
Wait how did you keep him from joining in Act 3?
I propose beating his ass with fists till he leaves on free will. Every 3rd hit inflicts -10 approval, he leaves at -50. Heal and beat heal and beat(sounds a bit too kinky, especially if SH the one that heals him...)

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Originally Posted by Netav
Honestly at this point, they should just add dialogue with SH(and other romanced companions) about setting up boundaries and what you expect in your relationship. Shadowheart is flexible so you should be able to chose both routes(mono and poly) and she should be ok with that. That way both groups of ppl would be happy. Maybe also change her reactions to certain situations(like mizora for example) based on chosen "route".

That would be a good addition to the game - a discussion about the bounds of the relationship smile

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Originally Posted by KillerRabbit
Originally Posted by Backinstyle
This subreddit has over 7000k upvotes. A lot of ppl don't care to have Halsin as a companion lol
https://reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/s/WyoQ0exyRN

Oh sure. I agree that lots of people are disappointed with Halsin. But I was talking about SH

That's 7000k ppl that don't care for Halsin, so that means they don't care for his poly stuff or anything about it him really. So, they're not actively for or against the drow scenes, but they certainly wouldn't care if the drow scenes disappeared lol

There are a lot of horny young ppl on reddit though. It's pretty sad how desperate they are, if a fade to black scene gets them so excited lol Like if you want porn, just play an actual porn game. This isn't like Dragon Age or Mass Effect where the sex scenes are done well and are romantic (at least for the ones I seen).

Even the normal sex scenes we get are done well in BG3. The porn stuff just sticks out and looks so gimmicky. All of it just looks like a joke tbh. I don't even think they want us to take it seriously because how could anyone? They have that weird ass bear scene too lmfao

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Just Avoid him at act two and never Do his quest in act 2 then he will never follow yu to act 3 yu even get a chance to actually talk to him after the boss battle and say strait to his face.. the Shadowcurse was always your stuff not mine so see ya loser..hauhauhauhauahuha feells so great man.. i never cured the shadowcurse after the fist time i did becouse i really dont need him in my game for nothing..he is just Useless becouse yu will get the Better Druid just Seconds after unlocking him..
i actually never understood why he is a companion he should always be only a NPC in act 1 i would rather have anyother thiefling as companion then him.
from the First time i speak with him when i save him i just hate him.. dont know i just dont like the dude and druids grove from the Get Go.
i really wish i had a option to only save the Thieflings i tried a Lot to let him die and yu only save the thieflings but never find a Way..
the Best way to avoid him coming to act 3 is just never do his quest on act 2 or speak with him again after the party.
BtW yu can actually be a Bad Guy and tell him the dude yu wake up for his quest after the boss too but the dude is already dead and he will react in not a good way.. really fun hahaha
i really enjoy make him hate me in the game. RS

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Originally Posted by Netav
Honestly at this point, they should just add dialogue with SH(and other romanced companions) about setting up boundaries and what you expect in your relationship. Shadowheart is flexible so you should be able to chose both routes(mono and poly) and she should be ok with that. That way both groups of ppl would be happy. Maybe also change her reactions to certain situations(like mizora for example) based on chosen "route".

SH isn't "flexible" until Act 3 though. Again, it's inconsistent with how a lot of ppl view her character in acts 1 and 2, so it would look like they're retconning her. Most ppl don't like retcons, in most cases.

Though I suppose in act 3 she already is retconned. So either way, Larian has shitty writing.

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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
That's 7000k ppl that don't care for Halsin, so that means they don't care for his poly stuff or anything about it him really.

Yeah didn't care for the bear scene either. But that's a bad inference -- I've seen plenty of poly people and poly friendly sorts say they are dissatisfied with Halsin. Halsin isn't SH.

Last I looked 1 in 9 people are ENM support for poly people increases every year. We're at tipping point and soon prejudice against poly people will viewed in the same light as prejudice against LGBT folk

https://www.newsweek.com/polyamorous-relationship-one-nine-americans-study-1594618

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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
Originally Posted by Netav
Honestly at this point, they should just add dialogue with SH(and other romanced companions) about setting up boundaries and what you expect in your relationship. Shadowheart is flexible so you should be able to chose both routes(mono and poly) and she should be ok with that. That way both groups of ppl would be happy. Maybe also change her reactions to certain situations(like mizora for example) based on chosen "route".

SH isn't "flexible" until Act 3 though. Again, it's inconsistent with how a lot of ppl view her character in acts 1 and 2, so it would look like they're retconning her. Most ppl don't like retcons, in most cases.

Though I suppose in act 3 she already is retconned. So either way, Larian has shitty writing.
I agree though? I read her as mono either way.

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Originally Posted by Thorvic
Just Avoid him at act two and never Do his quest in act 2 then he will never follow yu to act 3 yu even get a chance to actually talk to him after the boss battle and say strait to his face.. the Shadowcurse was always your stuff not mine so see ya loser..hauhauhauhauahuha feells so great man.. i never cured the shadowcurse after the fist time i did becouse i really dont need him in my game for nothing..he is just Useless becouse yu will get the Better Druid just Seconds after unlocking him..
i actually never understood why he is a companion he should always be only a NPC in act 1 i would rather have Althira or any other as companion then him..
from the First time i speak with him when i save him i just hate him.. dont know i just dont like dude and druid groves from the Get Go.

I suppose that's one way to do it lol I would just kill him in act 1 immediately if I'm not going to bother with the shadow curse. I agree, they could have spent the time and money on an actually good companion that isn't useless. Alfira would have been awesome.

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You're really confusing me. It's like you can't make up your mind on it. Like one minute you say it's "kinky and a fling", then another you're like agreeing that it's mono. So I dunno if you're just trolling? But this back and forth is giving me whiplash.

Either you believe she is mono or she isn't. Which is it?

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Does anyone know how the feedback thread works? I can't react to some of them, specifically the ones talking about the Shadowheart/Halsin issues. Does this mean our problems were noticed? I don't think I'm gonna get my hopes up about it too much, however.

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Originally Posted by Backinstyle
You're really confusing me. It's like you can't make up your mind on it. Like one minute you say it's "kinky and a fling", then another you're like agreeing that it's mono. So I dunno if you're just trolling? But this back and forth is giving me whiplash.

Either you believe she is mono or she isn't. Which is it?
I have 2 interpretations:
1.) She is in "open monogamy" with Tav and it is "sorta" consistent through the story if you only consider Halsin as a fling(He doesn't even like when Tav asks about relationship, the word I mean).
2.) She is full mono with inconsisteny in writing to let all the kinky act 3 staff in. Some companions had to be "shoehorned" into this to justify these activities(Astarion, SH and Karlach were the choice, sadly).

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INDEEED ALFIRA FOR SURE MAN>>
Jesus WHY 2 druids Larian WHYYYYYYYYY ??!?!?!?!
he is so Useless for gods sake..
i actually kill him in act 1 too a lot of times when he is in bear form trying to only save the thieflings but never find a way..hauhauhauha
did anyone managed ? if so please share with me huahauhauha

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Originally Posted by KillerRabbit
Originally Posted by Backinstyle
That's 7000k ppl that don't care for Halsin, so that means they don't care for his poly stuff or anything about it him really.

Yeah didn't care for the bear scene either. But that's a bad inference -- I've seen plenty of poly people and poly friendly sorts say they are dissatisfied with Halsin. Halsin isn't SH.

Last I looked 1 in 9 people are ENM support for poly people increases every year. We're at tipping point and soon prejudice against poly people will viewed in the same light as prejudice against LGBT folk

https://www.newsweek.com/polyamorous-relationship-one-nine-americans-study-1594618

And that's great, but it still doesn't change the fact that most ppl could care less about it in the game, based on the upvotes. SH isn't poly unless Halsin is around though, so without him in game, she would only ever be considered mono for the whole game. Take Halsin out and she has no one to do poly with. Sex with the drow twins don't really count I think, as it's just random prostitutes and not sex with someone you know. So I don't think SH makes for good poly representation, because she only is in this one instance with Halsin and done very poorly.

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Here we get into the problem of definitions. Relationships are complex in your view people can be monogamous but have foursomes with sex workers - I would call that 'monogamish' which is a type of ENM.

Also seems to be Netav's view. I prefer to think of SH as someone who wants a nesting partner because he has a strong desire for home and hearth. And some fun at the local druid grove if Tav is okay with it. I think the FR equivalent of Saturnalia is mid-winter fest and something tell me SH will want to attend.

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Originally Posted by Netav
Originally Posted by Backinstyle
You're really confusing me. It's like you can't make up your mind on it. Like one minute you say it's "kinky and a fling", then another you're like agreeing that it's mono. So I dunno if you're just trolling? But this back and forth is giving me whiplash.

Either you believe she is mono or she isn't. Which is it?
I have 2 interpretations:
1.) She is in "open monogamy" with Tav and it is "sorta" consistent through the story if you only consider Halsin as a fling(He doesn't even like when Tav asks about relationship, the word I mean).
2.) She is full mono with inconsisteny in writing to let all the kinky act 3 staff in. Some companions had to be "shoehorned" into this to justify these activities(Astarion, SH and Karlach were the choice, sadly).

But where does she ever state or even imply that she's in "open monogamy" with Tav? Why would Halsins lack of interest in open relationship only affect her and Astarion (Karlach doesn't actually join in on this I believe)? Do they ever mention Halsin' openness as an excuse for them being into poly? Why does Halsins relationship preference have anything to do with SH or Astarion? Neither of them care in solo Halsin romance and I've never heard of Origin SH or Astarion being into him either. Why is she suddenly into him when she never expresses this throughout the whole rest of the game? Why him? Why is she not okay with Karlach or anyone else?

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Originally Posted by KillerRabbit
Here we get into the problem of definitions. Relationships are complex in your view people can be monogamous but have foursomes with sex workers - I would call that 'monogamish' which is a type of ENM.

Also seems to be Netav's view. I prefer to think of SH as someone who wants a nesting partner because he has a strong desire for home and hearth. And some fun at the local druid grove if Tav is okay with it. I think the FR equivalent of Saturnalia is mid-winter fest and something tell me SH will want to attend.
Open monogamy is a type of relationship that has its roots in traditional monogamy, but with a twist. In a traditional monogamous relationship, both partners agree to be exclusive and committed to each other. There’s no room for any type of romantic or sexual relationship with anyone else.

However, in an open monogamous relationship, both partners agree to be committed to each other while allowing for a level of openness. This means that both partners are open to the possibility of having romantic or sexual relationships with other people, but only within certain boundaries.

These boundaries can vary from couple to couple and can include rules such as always using protection, not developing emotional attachments to other partners, or only engaging in sexual activities with others together as a couple. Open monogamy requires a high level of communication and trust between partners to ensure that both parties feel comfortable and respected in the relationship.
It's basically it, right ?

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