Originally Posted by Jones76
Originally Posted by Draganta
If you don't understand the scope of this game (bigger than Starfield and Diablo 4), why make comments like this? Why talk about things you don't know much about? Yeah the game isn't finished, because it is way too huge, but I am happy, was getting tired of all the other games without any real substance. If that is your jam, sure, nothing wrong with it. A lot of people like games like Skyrim. But try to understand how big this game is. Maybe they should have waited one more year before releasing, still it is in a way better state than a lot of other triple A games.

Big is absolutely no excuse for unfinished and in a state that is barely acceptable for a beta phase. And BG3 is by far not as big and complex, as you make it to be. A good comparison would be the Pathfinder games, with tons more classes, mechanics, spells, weapons, armor, characters and so on, a crusade mode on top and other gimmicks. They were released in way better state by a smaller team.

The software in modern day cars is pretty big, or in commercial airplanes. Would you fly or drive around in something needing a thousand bugfixes a week? Probably wouldn't be acceptable. Now, a game is not dangerous when it is buggy, but that doesn't mean anybody has to accept paying quite a lot for an unfinished product. I have stopped playing. Once again. After "Patch" 3 killed all my saves and some bugs effectively stopped me from progressing in act 2. Started a new game with Patch 3 and found act 1 one in a worse state than it has been before.

It is great, that Larian is reacting fast and it is absolutely ok that a game like that comes with bugs. But the bug fix counter is around 5.000 or more since release and every patch introduces new problems (which says a lot about how well structured the code internally is) some of them game breaking. So at least I am beyond accepting this. I'm angry, I'm disappointed and wait for something like a Definitive Edition, as I can't refund it.

It is way more complex than you think. You comparing it's complexity to Pathfinder proves that. I have played the second Pathfinder game, although the mechanics are more complex, that is not something that is complex to make. They are just more calculations. Easy to write for programmers. What is complex, is the fact that choices have such impact in BG3. And they have to test every possible combination in order to make it work well. That is a lot of work. I have not seen anything that impactful in the second Pathfinder game. Maybe the first is different? And the pathfinder games don't have those complex cinematics either, so no. You are right about 1 thing, the game not being finished is not an excuse, like I said before, they should have waited 6 months longer, or maybe a year.