Folks, we need you to respect moderator guidance in thread. You are welcome to PM us or even report a moderator post if you disagree or have questions, but arguing or insulting moderators in thread is a quick way to get suspended and a terrible way to argue for an outcome you want.

And if you believe a thread is being derailed by specific individuals, please report their posts so we can take a look and potentially deal with them before a thread devolves.

"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"