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I know for a fact that the death option would’ve been much more fitting for me if we could have Tav, at least romancing Karlach, hug Karlach through the pain and agony of burning up, and burn up together after telling eavh other that they love each other, or together, or something along the lines of ‘I told you, you’d never have to do this alone. You and me, always’.

It would make that ending slightly more appealing to me, not as much as Avernus, and especially not as much as trying to stabilize her forever. Obviously I want us to be able to try to help her and if you follow that quest and succeed, the options we have today wouldn’t be relevant. Mindflayer option is there because out of everybody else, she’s written as doomed, so that would vanish too and I’m here for it. I obviously also wish we could but returning to Karlach, I wish that in the shittiest of alternatives which is dying, we could die with her.

Edit: Also omg JusticeForKarlachsThread the trolls are gone

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Oooof, makes sense. Thanks for letting me know.

Possibly Withers is being... uh, politic. He doesn't want things to fall apart at a crucial moment.

But that's just me playing devil's advocate. Larian can homebrew their own rules about what may or may not have happened with your/Karlach's soul. I'd definitely throw out the whole soul-destroying bit if I were running a campaign.

I would alter the soul destruction to what it was originally: your soul turns to evil. I think Larian put in soul destruction as a) substitute for alignment not thinking about the implications and b) a reasons to have Withers involved.

So I agree with @Mictheltjuhn (on *something* - The only reason its' there is to encourage people to use tadpole powers on a replay.

Eh, I can see how people would find the "together in death" thing better than what we have, but at that point you may as well just go with Karlach to Avernus instead of both of you dying. Personally, I think we already have enough sad and tragic endings for karlach without adding yet another one, I'd much rather see some possibility of a somewhat positive outcome, myself.

I agree with you, 100 %. I don't want that, and when having to face the choices we have, I obviously went to Avernus because I'd rather die fighting for her there than give up. What we need is more hopeful ending, a more proper questline and everything we've covered here already. Tho, it was a simple pointing out that it's weird we couldn't even die with her. Like not even that option was given to us LOL

Yeah, Minthy really killed it with that one. Right in the feels.

Were all Minthara right now ....minus the homicide for most of us i suppose lol

As a side note: only Karlach has a trophy mutually exclusive with every other romance. Does this make her the canon option?

I'd say there aren't any canon options in RPG games (unless the creators decide to make a comic and have to canonize one plot direction or another, not pointing any fingers)

But this is curious. Do none of the other romances have trophies exclusive to them?

Nope, only Karlach as I know so far. I know the night orchid trophy for Shadow but this one you can give it to her w/o romance.

Not to want to spoil the fun about romance achievements, but um..

For an RPG to become canon for a game world would be a bit of a stretch. There are many possible outcomes for BG3 so which one is the canon outcome? Also for canon what class if the players character known as for the canon story? Could the "events" become canon, sure, that is easy. The City of Baldurs Gate was attacked by the plot involving the Dead Three attempting to control an Illithad Elder Brain. A band of Adventurers where able to defeat this plot, but not before "hundreds" of people where killed. The City however survived and has begun the process of rebuilding.

In this way the game could be canon and give an open legend that a DM could add to his game world. As for the various "companions" their contributions could be vaguely noted or their participation hinted at without specifics.

I.... forgot about that. LMAO. Thanks for this painful reminder. Lol.

I think it's possible to retain the origin characters as "legends" who had a pivotal role in the story, and then the DM can decide what part that was. That way you can have the best of both worlds.

Speaking of interesting things, as it stands today (23rd October) there's been over 35 instances where players have submitted individual feedback threads on Larian's discord feedback channel since 1st September, where most have gotten +50 upvotes and a total of 13 gotten 80 and higher. For those that don't hang out there, the top requested features that get or got over 80 upvotes were the such of character customization mid-game (which we later got, magic mirror), shaving His Majesty (which was reverted right away), hugs for all companions (remains to be seen, hugs are hard to animate), epilogues (we know are being worked on) and Karlach's story/ending. One that's nearing that kind of votage would be Minthara romance fix, which we know they're also aware of and tried to fix the liens not playing right, at least.

So that gives me some hope. Same thing with Karlach's story and "good/engine fixed ending" coming up every time Karlach is mentioned in a tweet/retweet, regularly mentioned on Reddit via memes or someone who just finishes the game venting out, and the like. I don't know about you, but even knowing that this would be the biggest addition/rework of all the things that are requested along with longer epilogues for all companions/the game in general, this being the highest regularly requested change gives me hope that they'd do something about it. After all, player feedback has been their priority number one throughout EA and post-launch.