Come on, folks. I thought I was clear yesterday that I didn�t think it was helpful or desirable to see the same people going over the ground they�ve already covered again.

Let�s not start similar circular arguments again. And let�s recognise that accusations of homophobia or trivialisation of sexual assault are going to be emotive and are likely to lead to strong feelings (I know they also probably come from that place) and heated debate and be very, very careful about how we talk about such topics here as a result. And be particularly aware that we should not keep going round in circles and repeating our point when it�s inevitably going to be stirring things up.

EDIT: Just seen the latest. papercut_ninja, the way you are talking about this and raising difficult real life situations that these forums are not really an appropriate place to discuss makes it feel like you�re trying to back your opponents into defending the indefensible and of course they�re going to be upset by that. I realise you yourself have had a strong and negative reaction to some elements of the story, and are finding it hard to accept that others can read it in a different way, but you have now made your take clear multiple times. Please let�s move on.

Last edited by The Red Queen; 30/10/23 08:06 AM.
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