Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Astarion romance improvements

It's understandable for him to be overjoyed when all of his plans succeed and he manages to execute his perfect revenge. He waited 200 years to get it. Plus, he feels an intense rush of power from the ritual - he's practically high then. Just because he talks about wanting to do some things, doesn't mean he will follow through, he's always free to change his mind. He does relax later though and Tav can even sway him in some ways at the end.To be honest, there were multiple instances throughout the game where the darker side of him was emerging. I think he was keeping it supressed so as to not alarm Tav, while fishing for their reactions to see if they were similar to him. That conversation where he mentions Tav is naive to the ways of the world but they have potential and tries to find out if they'd be up for some world domination is very telling. To me, as ascendant he simply unleashes his shadows when he sees that Tav is willing to do anything for him, believing they will condone this side of him and join him as his kindred soul.

But if someone sees him as a danger to the society that needs to be eliminated after the final battle, they should also have that option ingame.


True, but since he's ascended these rules may not necessarily apply to him. He's a whole new being. I really wish Larian expanded on it and fleshed him out more post-ascension.

Regarding him getting less updates than other companions, I kind of get it from the standpoint that:

1. Arguably he was the least broken romance on release. We can be suggesting all the improvements above but as we kind of agreed to begin with, he already has a great romance. Meanwhile, we still cannot kiss Minthara, she says she will come to us at night but never does and Gale went from harassing us to giving us the "we are not that close" treatment betweeen patches. He is not a priority right now, but I am sure things that need fixing will be fixed.

2. Someone did a summary of the time each companion has in dialogue/personal quests and Astarion's story is iirc 1.5x longer than Wyll's. We have to remember that this is *technically* not an Astarion dating sim and it is at this point more important to improve/add stuff to other companions to improve the game as a whole.

And regarding him becoming a monster post ascending - that is the whole point. Disregarding dnd lore and how true vampires should behave - if we only look at psychology... It is a real thing that abused people can either heal and break the cycle, or refuse to heal and be doomed to repeat it. In ascending him, you are confirming his core fear - that he is not enough just as he is, that he needs to become more powerful to earn respect. He does not even know how to be a better vampire ascendant, because the behaviour blueprint he has is shit. Meanwhile, if you convince him not to ascend, you are showing him he is worthy of love just as he is, he does not need to become an improved version because this version is what you love.

You also get multiple warnings and foreshadowing that this is who he will become after you do it. I'm fine to leave his ascended story as is - although for you feral ascended fans, I do hope they fix the camera . If Minthara's scene is as explicit as you guys say, then I see no reason why we have fade to black in almost every other romance. Maybe it should be a toggleable option? Like showing full nudity is?

+1 on all this, except everyone's story is longer than Wyll's and I don't think he got anything new this patch either. Apart from some bugs.

I once saw someone describe Minthara's scene as softcore porn and honestly that's accurate. None of the male companions come even close (though I haven't seen Halsin's). So it's interesting that they felt the need to censor ascended Astarion.

Me too, Juicebox, me too! I just want to glory in my poor decision making, is that too much to ask? ??

See I have not seen Minthara's scene bc I got her as companion through "good playthrough recruitment mod". But I just did Halsin's yesterday


So it is more spicy than Astarion's forest scene, but definitely less spicy than ascended Astarion's.

Yeah Minthy still wins the spice contest then.

I find it fascinating and awesome how differently and in so many ways Astarion can be interpreted!

To me it was giving him everything he wanted and allowing him the freedom to choose for himself and be responsible for his own actions - even if he may regret it later (which he clearly doesn't). I did the same for all companions - stayed silent or gave neutral responses telling them they could do what they wanted with their life. Everyone's life is their own business after all. The fact that Astarion has to be persuaded out of the ritual (unlike Shadowheart and Lae'zel for example when making decisions during their own storylines) means that he never changes his worldview and desires because of game events and Tav's influence, and in this case Tav is telling him what to do, which I don't feel they have the right to do. He's suffered for centuries, wanted to live his life on his own terms and achieve his vampiric dreams and then Tav shows up, they spend a couple of weeks together and suddenly they know what's best for him? He should totally focus on his own needs, live a full life and not self-sacrifice for a relationship that may or may not even end soon. Personally, I don't see versions of him, I see him as a whole and full package - both dark and light. We call him spawn and ascendant for reference but in essence he's still the same guy, just someone who made different choices. Persuading him feels like Tav asking him to be a good hero because they want him to behave in a certain way (he doesn't want that and straight up tells Tav he can't be what they want to see in him and that he's not a fairytale prince). The game even shows several examples how "well" and "sweet" self-sacrificing and doing the 'right thing' often ends up on a personal level in the end:

On another note, since the companions are getting their own unique kisses, I'd like to see Astarion get the same treatment and even have two variants after dealing with Cazador - one for ascendant and one for spawn. We deserve it after how dirty patch 4 did him.

The thing is, he does not want to be an ascended powerful vampire lord! Multiple dialogue bits here and there show you this. What he wants is to be safe and so that no one can hurt him again. He is convinced the only way to do that is through ascending. If you persuade him to not do that, he later thanks you and confirms that he was close to losing himself completely. Moreover, you can tell the spawn Astarion "don't worry, I will keep you safe" and he will be like "I appreciate the sentiment, it would have been nice to be able to protect myself but oh well". Ultimately he has no regrets about not ascending, more than that, he expresses that he prefers that outcome to the alternative. And if you still want to make him a vampire leader, there is still one way to do that!

See sometimes traumatised people think they want something, but what they need is a completely different story. You can support their rights and wrongs (lol) or you can be the reason they do a little bit of thinking before diving off the edge.

He wants it all, & I want it all. Please make his romance better. The kisses as of patch 4, not even a traumatized vampire would be this middle school. Plus this is an 18+ game, please give us better & more mature sex scenes, hugs, kisses, the whole thing (I like the toggle option idea because even as a woman, I do not mind a more graphic sex scene. I am not a flowers and chocolates type of woman.). Astarion says he wants it all. Either way, the story goes, make it worthy of him, because there are a lot of us out there that were drawn to him to begin with. I +1 a lot of the suggestions, but patch 4 has about killed my desire for the game because I want to know this particular character and he is the reason I play the game. Not only for the fun DnD gameplay but for the friendship, romance, the whole Astarion play-through that you drew us in with. Please fix this obvious error and/or bug.

He is also a new being that has not existed before, so we don't know if our Tav is a bride or a spawn due to her drinking his blood, able to walk in the sun after becoming his consort since even Astarion doesn't know. But the changes to our Tav's teeth are a must, no question. Not sure if her heart is still beating like Astarion's though, that is something that needs to be clarified with a newly created creature that technically doesn't exist in the DnD lore.

As far as the trauma, some of us see him as always traumatized. Some of us think they need to tell him what to do. Take a step back and look at him as a whole person and each person never sits perfectly in a box of psychology or how a person acts towards the original trauma. If he made his own decisions, he would live with the consequences. It is your choice if you want to go on with him to discover what the rest of his life looks like, ascended or not. It is your choice if you want to be there with him, for all the world or not. Don't get judgy when someone likes one version over the other, please. Personally, I would stick with him either way. That is my choice.

Ultimately, Larian...............please fix our boy & the much-needed additions to his story to flush it out more completely instead of laughing at him burning when we are supposedly in love with him at this point, leave Karlach with the other friends and make sure he is ok. Expand and improve. Give us it all, please. Respectfully.

Couldn’t have put it better myself! <3

In general, I agree with your post, it's a good suggestion. But I would like to clarify something.

We have a quest with an artist or the opportunity to order a statue. It would be much more logical. It's enough for them to add Astarion's reaction to this quest.

Astarion, judging by his phrases, loves drow and is not afraid of them. But I would like more answers with the drow tag for Astarion, because he is an elf.

I would generally like to see the opportunity to play as monogamy character... Give me phrases where I can say that my partner is important to me.

You can get a confession scene without a blood dealer and it actually looks more natural. The problem is that it starts not from relationships, but from the course of history.

A big plus to gossip about relationships. In general, I would like the companions to communicate with each other more often.


We need more information about the ritual. I don't care if it's a piece of paper or something, at least something. Raphael's words are not enough for me. You introduce such a serious thing into the game and there is almost no information about it.

I want you to notice that after Ascension, all the player's dialogues are negative or stupid. The dialogue after Ascension should be reworked, especially the answer to the question "what do you want". I should be able to answer "nothing" or "to make you happy" or "to be with you." I find the options "your body" or "being a vampire" strange. The other two options are negative and aggressive.

You can also breakup with Ascended Astarion in this dialogue and the next scene in four different ways. Do you know what I want? So that you can breakup with spawn. You can't leave the graveyard scene. You can't say to Astarion, "No, I'm not going anywhere with you." It's not fair. Why can't I say no to him? I literally can't give up the graveyard scene. it's very strange.

You see how the writers treat your character. If you have made Astarion a spawn, then you cannot respond to him as an evil character. If you have a relationship with Ascended Astarion, then you do not have a neutral reaction to his behavior. It's as if you're a disgruntled kind character again, or a stupid evil character who doesn't care about Astarion.

His scenes after the ritual are devoid of rolleplay.

btw Thank you for writing such detailed posts!

Oh no... you mean "evil" not "bad". He gets everything he aspired to as a corrupt magistrate. You reminded me of something else. Please bring back the damn corrupt magistrate. Bring back his past at least with documents or newspapers. Don't build his whole story around the fact that he's just a victim of Cazador. Early Access players know who he was.

I mean both evil and bad. He's not a corrupt magistrate in full release and it's not how he wants to end up.

Have you not passed Ansur quest and not played Astarion's origin? He's still a corrupt magistrate. But without the upper city, we can't get information about it. The magistrate cannot live in the lower city. He wanted power from the very beginning and that's why he got involved with vampires. So getting power is literally his main goal. If you want to think about freedom, then look at Karlach. She is the best example of freedom and she never say that we need to capture a cult or manipulate people with tadpoles.

Oh nice, it's Nyloth! I love your vids and shorts with ascended Astarion!


That's great, because I was worried he might have something against female drow. The only time I remember him mention the race was when I was looking through alternative options when talking about saving my drow buddy Nere. There were definitely not enough tags.


Exactly! I mentioned that in the OP. Honestly, it feels like the game is judging me by assuming I ascended him only for his powers and to have reward sex. The only alternative is telling him you're basicly disappointed in him. It took me a lot of time reloading to check the dialogues and staring at the screen not knowing what to do because I didn't want to pick any of the options. Eventually, I settled for 'I hoped you learned to love me' to make the exchange have a tiny semblance of romanticism.


That's a very good point! You can roleplay your character to be terrified of ascended Astarion's attitude and be disgusted with him but can't for example roleplay losing interest in spawn Astarion because suddenly he's too soft and human for their liking and they wanted an edgy, seductive vampire, being a pragmatist who only helped him so Cazador's lackeys never stalk your group again, or persuaded him out of ascension because they didn't want to have a potential powerful enemy if things turned sour, or an obsessive vampire lord lover harassing them Imhotep from "The Mummy" style breaking into their room at night trying to turn them into his spawn, etc.


Wholeheartedly agree! I would like to see more content and improvements for both paths.

So I have been mulling over my reply to these suggestions, while I agree about most points you made Ametris, there are some I don't so I will break it down.

Act 1

1. I don't think Tav is at this point with Astarion yet (what approval this convo appears on again? Medium?) where Tav would just let Astarion see him through Tav's eyes, but painting a picture or that entire mirror image suggestion of yours, yeah definitely(speaking of, if Astarion becomes an arcane trickster he should have access to mirror image so I guess it's an oversight by the devs lol). Also, I think there is that whole romantic aspect of the mirror convo!

2. That line has been changed ages ago already. In patch 2 or 3 iirc.

3. Yep, agreed.

4. Yes and no. I also played as a drow on my 1st run (and imagine my surprise that after meeting Araj, Astarion was talking about "that vile drow" in front of another drow, got a chuckle out of me - the irony of it all). But yes, I agree, having race unique interactions with him would be cool (like tieflings can first of all recognize the language his scars were written in without a skill check - rest need to pass an arcana to know it's written in infernal, but also when he's trying to read them later, they can just straight up translate them) but also, too much work for Larian and other romances would also need such race specific lines. Also, no because the way WotC has been going on lately, about nullifying racial uniqueness and making everyone pretty much the same... which yeah, it's kinda sad that they basically treat races as make-up lately.

Act 2

1. During early access Tav could sleep with Gale right after the tiefling party, or AFTER AFTER the party if Tav flirted with Gale at all. The cutscene you are referring to was moved to act 2 and completely rewritten, so it doesn't account for any active romances anymore (but I agree, it should). Also, let's not forget that in EA Gale could sleep with Tav, and then morning after tell Tav that he also banged Mystra and still has some unresolved feelings towards her. Obviously Tav would feel deeply betrayed by him not mentioning it earlier and because of it you could break the romance then and there. A lot of people were unhappy with this gaslighting behavior of Gale's so yeah, it's been completely rewritten and we know much much earlier that he banged Mystra so we know what kind of situation we're walking into if we pursue Gale. Just a little tidbit.

2. Yes and no. I mean, what kind of route people have to take to kill ratman before meeting Yurgir, I mean, sure on my latest run I almost ran into the ratman before meeting Yurgir cause I was curious if that was even possible. Imho, what Larian should do to prevent people from doing that is make the displacer beast's spawn points depending on player's approach, rather than having her appear in only 1 spot. So meeting Yurgir would be harder to miss.

3. & 4. Thing is, there are 2 confession scenes. One was the 'Do you have a moment?' (the 'I want us to be something real') and the 'I want to thank you' (the Araj Oblodra one). The 1st one used to be really easy to trigger, all you needed to do was to reach Moonrise Towers (didn't even need to talk to Ketheric), have at least very high approval with him (again, easy at this point, even if playing an uber goody-two-shoes, heck it's super easy to be max 100 exceptional at this point in game) and rest and it would happen. Then some genius at Larian decided to move that scene (I guess due to the thing where you could get into relationship with him super easy and then get Astarion to suck Araj for the +2 str potion totally consequence free) to killing Yurgir for Raphael (what I am not sure about is - if you kill the ratman, Yurgir goes free if that would still trigger that scene or not, I am betting not) which yeah, is easy to accomplish but at the same time you will only trigger it at the end of act 2, what kind of sucks. Also, you still need very high + approval with Astarion in this case anyway, but like I wrote - approval isn't a problem at all. By the end of act 2 generally everyone but Halsin are sitting at exceptional approval anyway.

The way I would fix it is: make it so 'I want us to be something real' conversation just needs very high or exceptional approval, make it so it doesn't require us to visit Moonrise Towers either (so we could get it much earlier in the act, even before Wyll's stupid dance, so that would cut Wyll trying to woo us with that ballet thing), and make it so our decision with Araj has way higher impact. Make it so if you let him suck her blood, he breaks up with us with absolutely no way to talk ourselves out of that. And if we don't let him suck her, make it so he's still thankful, dunno, let us hug him again or something. No more stupidity.

5. True and agree. Everyone needs more hugs honestly. Like friendly hugs too!

6. That is already in the game but is not triggering. Companions do comment (in banters) on our slowly blossoming relationship with Astarion, there are banters for all acts as well but currently they're not triggering at all. All Larian has to do is flip a switch and make it so they trigger finally.




Act 3

1. Sure, but you have to remember that if it's done for Astarion, it has to be done for all other romances as well. And THAT would be a lot of extra work for Larian.

2. Agreed. I wish there was a way indeed to talk to Astarion to hear his opinion without that also meaning that we can't say no to Halsin if Astarion agrees lol.

3. Yeah, I guess if people want them both that would be a way to do it.

4. True, agreed.

5. Yep, as much as I think House of Hope is masterfully written, I do hate that nobody has any reaction to sleeping with Haarlep right in front of their eyes. Like everyone seems to give 0 fucks (just like Durge's death scene), and all they do is disapprove at best. I think that entire scene should be remain, but be completely rewritten, give all companions, not only romances, some goddamn reactions to what is about to unfold. Make romances furiously plead with Tav to reconsider, anything really.

6. Eh, no. The fact that we're meeting her again is enough.

7. No, Raphael played his role. At best maybe have him comment on present companions when we're exiting HoH, and maybe have him comment on Astarion's current state (ascendant or spawn, and if Tav is a vampire spawn, have him make a comment on that as well), but then have him make such comments on all companions' states (so like Sharran vs Selunite SH, etc etc).

8. Agreed.

9. Agreed on both counts again, but that also applies to all other romances, all romances imho should have a date, not only Karlach. Especially spawn Astarion who's lacking content compared to ascended lol.

10. Wait, really? How? What hoops are those. But yeah, having some time to decide would be nice. But then again, it would be hard to implement with the way this game is structured.

11. True, a vampire spawn with no fangs is no fun.

12. True, but all of them kind of do (in that vid I linked earlier). Cowards just have no courage to tell it to your face lol.

13. While on paper that sounds like a wonderful idea, it just would require too much work to implement. Also, I hear that there is a special cutscene for Tavs who rejected Astarion's immortality offer right after the docks, where he comes to you and kind of wants you back. I dunno how true it is, since I never went that route. Might test it one day.

14. Umm, I think that entire vampire bride is just people grasping at straws and headcanoning stuff. And sure, as spawn you could bite him and it is tragic he has absolutely no reaction lol. But I think that Tav is just his spawn, nothing special or elaborate.

15. Sure, but the problem is that both Astarion (and Tav if spawn) change. Like entirely change, so what they feel towards each other is more akin to extreme possessiveness and not pure (innocent) love. Heck, when Astarion tries to convince Tav and says he loves them he does so in a very mocking manner. So not having the option to tell him you love him is actually pretty true to vampire lore in D&D. Altho, I guess vamp spawns, especially as fresh as Tav still retain some feelings in them (Astarion was 200 years a spawn and he could still feel love, so why not Tav?).

16. Yep, even after patch 4 the kiss is the most chaste peck I have ever seen. Generally I think there should be different kissing animations for all companions and dependent on their story progression. So 3 different kissing animations for Astarion. Pre-Cazador we can have that dumb peck. Post ritual: something really spicy for ascendant and something grabby and sweet for spawn.

17. The entire Emperor/Orpheus ending sequence needs massive rework and appropriate reactions from all companions between the cutscenes. That entire section is a mess narratively.

18. I guess? Again, so much work for Larian for such a small change. Quite odd they didn't actually think of it tbh (just proves that act 3 was rushed to hell).

19. True, it's pretty funny and clearly an oversight by Larian (rushed act 3 and rushed endings tsk tsk tsk).

20. & 21. & 22. There is already a lengthy topic about spawn Astarion & the docks scene out there.

The enemies Tav might be referring to might be our companions, I have seen what the endings look like if you played as Astarion - and he can actually decide to declare our companions his enemies and wish to either convert them into vampires or murder 'em. Or, y'know, clerics or Lathander. Or us vs the world. Plenty of enemies to be found.

But yeah, about the spawn Astarion I complained pretty much relentlessly. It's just so damn out of character for him to be so damn insecure out of nowhere. Not to mention after the graveyard scene, he really thinks we'd leave him? Sure, ascended is the only one you can't leave in the ending sequence, so I guess Larian wanted to give us a chance to just drop him like a sack of potatoes (can be done to pretty much all romances from what I've seen on youtube, even Wyll who proposes to you much earlier in act 3 trololol). But what I find extra tragic is if you compare spawn Astarion with a normal Tav/Durge vs mind flayer one. In MF version he suddenly remembered he loved us. Hmmmm. I will use his own words from the party scene: "I hate it!".

23. & 24. & 25. You really really love ascendant Astarion, don't you? But yeah, agree with all these points.

26. Hard disagree. Astarion is never going to be stronger than an actual deity, even if a quasi deity (after 2nd sundering that's what the Dead 3 have been reduced into: quasi deities). Sure Astarion could notice something is off, but in best case he'd be laughed at by Bhaal, in worst case he'd end up dying for interfering.

Now to add my own thoughts and ideas, since yeah, this topic covers a lot of my own thoughts on potential improvements to Astarion's romance as it is.

What I would add is: add different dialogues for when we ask him 'What are we , to you?'. Pre-Cazador and spawn Astarion have only 1 answer to that. Ascended has like 5 different replies. That needs to be changed, sure I'd add an extra confused reaction to that question to pre-Cazador Astarion and at least 2 extra to spawn (to at least bring it a little closer to ascendant's reactivity).

Spawn Tav should be able to offer Araj to suck her blood for that damn potion, it's not like she cares who does it as long as it has pointy teeth and is cold to the touch, right? Seems like an oversight to me.

With romanced Astarion we should be able to ask him how he is doing just like we can ask Gale that, and it would be fun if he, just like Gale, had different answers to that depending on what we've done in the story etc etc.

Definitely need a date scene with Astarion (and all romances) a'la Karlach one.

A nitpick, but it would be nice if we could actually find Astarion's grave in the damn graveyard, why does it have to be a cutscene specific thing? Heck, if you approached that thing with ascendant Astarion he could have a pretty strong reaction to it. Can you imagine the possibilities? Ho ho!

Shart needs this too! I'm dying for an option to jsut say that I was checking and actually want to stay exclusive.

And if engaging in polyamory with Halsin, SH asks for details, but you actually can't tell her "details", because you have zero dialogue options.

Well, the companions communicate through the tadpole on multiple occasions, from time to time the merge even happens automatically. You enter Astarion's mind during his very introduction and see things from his perspective. You can also use the tadpole when he tries to bite you at night to see if you can trust him (again you see scenes as if you were in his body). It wouldn't be a stretch (if you previously rummaged through his brain twice, maybe you could return the favour?), especially if you want to roleplay your Tav as someone who enjoys having mind powers and feels a strong connection with Astarion. The scene also happens after Tav lets him drink their blood. If giving him blood is ok, then sharing the mind for a second shouldn't be a problem. I honestly don't care if he can see his beautiful face this way or another. I just want him to be able to have that experience and to hear his comments afterwards.


I checked for it before submitting my post and now again. It's still there.


Not only do I want these to trigger but I also want to have an actual conversation about it. Karlach, Shadowheart and Lae'zel can comment on you hanging out with Astarion during the grove party but when the relationship progresses suddenly they have nothing to say.


All I'm asking for is a conversation with him acknowledging that's he aware that the ritual took place and what he thinks about it, vampire lord Astarion and Tav. If you kill

Yes, you can stay mortal and continue to be together with ascended Astarion!



You have to skip the long rest after ascending him and immediately go to the point of no return to finish the game.
Because it's in the game, it is canon then that he would keep trying to persuade Tav who's still hesitating. Hence my other suggestions.


I heard about it too but there is no video about it. I'll believe it when I see it.


As mentioned before, as soon as you ascend him (and are still mortal) the game assumes you only want to stay with him because you want to become a vampire and to get physical with him. I guess it also believes you don't really love him and only continue the relationship because he's so powerful and hot.
Besides, we don't know how much they change because Astarion is a new being (and by extension so is spawn Tav) and not a classic d&d vampire. Raphael says the Ascendant can enjoy all the good stuff humanity has to offer - love is part of that, isn't it? Astarion also mentions how his senses are sharper after the ritual - his feelings might also become more intense. He totally becomes more possessive but it doesn't have to be due to his transformation but instead to him simply being so confident and arrogant after the ritual. In the origin run there's never any comment from the narrator that he feels like his alignment/worldview/personality is changing, only his biology. He stops mincing words, gets super blunt, ropes Tav into bdsm - to me it seems that because he finally feels powerful he allows himself to speak and behave in the way he truly wants to, without self-censorship. Before ascension he sees himself as weak and pathetic. When you reject him and tell him 'there's nothing of the man I loved left in you' he even imitates and mocks his old behaviour strongly indicating that was just a persona he doesn't need anymore.
He's indeed acting all cagey and manipulative when persuading Tav. Don't forget it's right after the ritual where he's still fully in the 'I'm an effing winner, suck it Cazador, I stole everything from you, buahahahaha' mode. I read it as him striking while the iron is still hot and wanting to turn Tav immediately to secure them for himself before they have the time to process what happened, feel remorse, and change their mind about him. He doesn't even expect Tav to help him with the ritual in the first place (he says so afterwards - 'I can't believe you let me do that, a pleasant surprise'). That's why he temporarily reverts to his seductive ways from act 1 to make sure Tav doesn't leave him - that's the only way he knows how to behave (to get what he wants) according to his own words post-breakup. He calms down and behaves all excited about the relationship like in act 2 and 3 as soon as you become his consort. At that point he truly feels no fear.


Indeed it's odd that this is his most loving exchange.


Guilty as charged. He's delightful. <3


Agreed, I looked through all the graves hoping to find it and hear ascended Astarion make a comment. Tsk.


I heard new complaints that now when you reach the point of no return and share the end of the world kiss you can no longer kiss him again afterwards. I just checked my savegame and can confirm it to be true. WHY is he so broken after patch 4?

Guys! Astarion has a new kiss animation after the hotfix! He now grabs Tav's hip and pulls them closer to him. The kiss is longer and more passionate than all the previous iterations! Sadly broken for me, because he kisses the air in front of my Tav's forehead.
The ascended romance scene is still pg13 unfortunately.

I think it might be a case of patch incompatibilities. On release, with my drow I had that line, then on my 1st Durge it was still there and my 1st Durge was created after Patch 1. And my current tiefling Durge was created in patch 3 and had no 'saving their tails' line either. He just said 'let's stop wasting our time and go'. Maybe if you create a new save and romance him again you'll get the correct line? Or maybe he's just being extra sensitive to mentioning tails cause my Durge is a tiefling? I dunno.


True, but half the time Lae and SH in particular are getting quite bugged and they don't notice anything, heck on my tiefling only Karlach had that line at the party, SH just wanted some private time without mentioning Astarion, and Lae wanted to bang lol. On my 1st Durge all 3 of them noticed the relationship with Astarion though. I don't know what bugs are those and what triggers them. It's really inconsistent when it comes to the party I gotta say. But it would be nice having the option to discuss our romance with pretty much anyone, hear some opinions (especially from Jaheira and Minsc lol). And it should be a feature for ALL romances too, not just Astarion.


Ooooooooh I just learned something new! DAMN Thanks for illuminating me! I had no idea it was even possible and that it has ending lines for it too! DAAAAAAAYUM! Mind blown!


Yeah same, like I said, I will test it one day and if it works like that then I will upload it lol. I blame it on the game being too new.

Hmm true, you are correct! The game does treat Astarion not like a person but a toy post his ascension, which yep, is hella depressing!


I am gonna check it now! Also, the game has had a hotfix 10 which made his kiss.. even funnier! Both better and worse! I even made a vid of it and uploaded it, also, forgive my loud laughter but it's just hilarious!