Come on folks, let's try to keep the discussion appropriate for a forum for people to have friendly chats about a game, and not get too much into difficult and controversial real life topics or make it personal. And, I say again, recognise when you've made your point, make peace with the fact that others are still going to think differently, and agree to disagree.

"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"