Originally Posted by Estelindis
Originally Posted by Taleon
Thank you Estelindis. Great comment. Definitely something to think about and explore. Is there a line for self-sacrifice and, if there is, how much is the reason the person is so willing in the first place what defines it and how much is the line defined by the result? As Withers asks, what is the worth of a life?

I feel like Wyll and Karlach challenge our character as much as our sensibilities as angels who look like devils while we sometimes choose devils that look like angels.

In the next age somone is going to decide Wyll should be remembered as a saint if Faerun remembers him, human and flawed but a saint. What about the rest of us as heroes or ordinary beings? How much is too much to ask to save someone or many and what are we if we are not willing to pay?
Thank you Taleon! For me, this is one of the chief questions inspired both by the game in general and Wyll's story in particular.

In a world like FR, where lives are finite but souls can be eternal, to what extent can it ever be fair to sacrifice a soul - even your own soul, offered freely - to save one life? What about hundreds or thousands of lives? And to what extent can we meaningfully talk about it being a free sacrifice if there's extreme time pressure and the hanging threat of others suffering if you make the "wrong" choice, or even if you simply don't decide quickly enough?

At the same time, we can't necessarily treat it as a pure "souls vs. lives" calculation, because an atrocity against a large number of lives can have an impact on the fate of people's souls - say, if someone gets pushed down a path of vengeance by suffering, and ends up handing over their own soul in a pact. Or someone simply gets ground down by suffering and takes a worse path as a result.


Those are really good questions Estelindis. I don't think Wyll has a choice really; I can't even say a person like Wyll because there aren't many like him. It's inspiring that he does it but a tragedy that he's pushed into situations that demand such sacrifice to do good in the first place.

The way to honour the things he does is to get rid of the people and beings that create those kinds of situations. We think of doing that as heroism and pretend it's hard when it's just taking out rubbish. That's not hard. And if we're honest we like it. Particulary when we don't feel the cost. Heroic is doing what Wyll does. Taking the extra time to determine who is really innocent no matter how things look and accepting a serious loss to protect them. That's hard.

I feel like it's easy and understandable to be consumed by rage after a lot of suffering and the beings who create that suffering deserve that wrath. They should pay. The thing that makes Wyll special is he can be dipped in all the levels of hell and not be consumed. He will always be the Blade of Frontiers.



If everyone was treated the way they treated the person least able to resist there would be universal prosperity and complete peace

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