They Both suffer the Same Problem as others poit out here already..
They came in the game so Late.. that by the time they Join..
yu already care a lot more with the others yu met in act 1..
thats kinda really sad..
i love then a lot from the older games so here i always bring then when i do hero runs..
(but thats what make then overshadow by the others.. they came so late that its hard to care for then if yu never played the older games.)