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apprentice
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apprentice
Joined: Sep 2023
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Also, when it comes to Isobel, there is one glaring plot hole. Shouldn't she be an undead like the rest of her family? Sure she could still worship Selune but she could also hate her new 'unlife', it would make for a much more compelling plot. But no, all we know is that she has frequent nose bleeds and coughs blood, why? Exactly. Orin mentions Ketheric’s “crypt breath” when he’s close… seeing Isobel make out with Aylin was… ew. And there are actual rules concerning full resurrection in DnD, you have few days tops, depending on the power of the cleric, condition of the body, soul departing etc… after 100 years Isobel would barely be a skeleton, let alone a pretty young woman. Also! She says after death all went black… again, not DnD. She would’ve become a petitioner in City of Judgement and would’ve been taken by Selune to her domain. Her death wouldn’t have been “blackness”, she would remember those things. As for changing what happens after ACT 2… I’d actually start with ACT 2, in which you fight the illithids in Moonrise, not Thorm, so: 1. Remove Thorm, Emperor, Orin and Gortash, remove the crown and all nonsense connected to it, just make illithids and their Grand Design an actual big bad. PC motivation - remove tadpole, avoid becoming a mind flayer. 2. Develop Durge subplot x100, make it canon - Bhaal wants you to be a murder machine, wants to corrupt your soul but also wants you to die in the end to take it, because if you become a mind flayer - you lose the soul, Bhaal would not want that. So you’re fighting your heritage and the illithid domination, you’re fighting for YOUR OWN SOUL. 3. Good Ending - you defy both the Grand Design and Bhaal, save yourself, Neutral Ending - you commit to daddy, beat the illithids, but become Bhaal’s chosen full time and go to his domain after death, and Bad Ending - you become a mind flayer, lose your soul, planar war breaks out etc. Resurrection rules are not what you think they are. Raise Dead has to be used within 10 days, but not the higher forms of Resurrection. True Resurrection. Soul free and willing to return. Did not die of old age. Dead less than 200 years. Touching the body if you have it, name use required if you don't. Resurrection can raise someone that has been dead up to 100 years.
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old hand
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old hand
Joined: Jul 2023
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No offense but you seem to interpret any and all comments including the word "gay" as a slight towards a certain group of people.
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veteran
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veteran
Joined: May 2019
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I do want to add, that I like discussing with you. We are often of different opinions, but you are always really chill, I really appreciate that. Thank you. And right back at you. Always love reading your posts. 
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journeyman
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journeyman
Joined: Aug 2023
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OP, your points, and this whole thread, are excellent. And @fylimar and @Gray Ghost add some great additional points as well, as you always do. Somehow I wish, there would be more talk about the plot points that could be better, than five threads about Astarions romance scene being broken ( not hating here just an example). Hah good one, it shows the type of audience BG3 attracted. Majority of BG3 discussions online is about romance, kisses, sex etc. These ppl do not care that Story absolutely falls apart once you begin questioning wtf is going on And this whole point especially strikes a chord with me because I've also been making this same point. I don't blame Larian here. They want to make a ton of money from their game, and they have been brilliant in understanding what today's gamer audience truly wants, which is sex, sex, and more sex. And of course, unlike in a book or a movie or even porn, this is interactive sex, which is *the* key selling point.All the other talk about the supposed brilliance of this game are complete crap, which can so very easily be exposed if anyone cares to undertake even a very basic analysis of the game. I have commented this as well. Makes me so utterly dissappointed in people that so many can be so incredibly simple minded that they swallow everything raw as long as there is enoguh simp material. Yeah I did a whole rant on reddit about how the devs are basically using porn to cover up how shallow the game is and i got more downvotes than i ever have before in my life. If you don't try to sleep with companions there is literally no reason to talk to them. The game is fun, I like it, but it is not goty material or a triumph of story telling that everyone says it is
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veteran
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veteran
Joined: Dec 2020
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I do want to add, that I like discussing with you. We are often of different opinions, but you are always really chill, I really appreciate that. Thank you. And right back at you. Always love reading your posts. Awe, thank you
"We are all stories in the end. Just make it a good one."
Doctor Who
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Volunteer Moderator
Joined: Feb 2022
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The Red Queen behaves like the quintessential Victorian governess. She is overbearing, meticulously obsessive about manners, and civil in a self-righteous and supercilious way. Like the vast majority of the characters in Through the Looking-Glass, the Red Queen makes definitive statements with little regard for an abiding logic that would support them. Her assertions are often arbitrary recitations of strict behavioural advice, such as, “Speak when you’re spoken to!” When Alice reveals the inadequacy of the logic behind the Red Queen’s statements, the Red Queen asserts her arbitrary position of authority as a justification. The Red Queen’s constant badgering of and competition with Alice indicates profound feelings of antagonism. She fits into the framework of Alice’s dream as representative arbitrary authority, serving as a caricature of an overbearing governess figure at odds with her young charges. https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/through-the-looking-glass/character/the-red-queen/ Okay, speaking of arbitrary judgements that was actually pretty clever and made me laugh, so while taking digs at moderators is usually a quick way to get a suspension I'll let it slide this time. But no more derailing this thread with talk of or sideswipes at moderators, or I will be forced to assert my position of authority.
"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"
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journeyman
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journeyman
Joined: Aug 2023
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Apart from the holes and cut content, I have a feeling that the whole game is rushed. I'm just not feeling this long adventure. As if this was all just a prologue
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veteran
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veteran
Joined: Dec 2020
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Mostly I 'm ok with the pacing, but in act 3 it gets a bit convoluted.
Act 1 and 2 are good,story - and pacingwise. I don't know if I had needed the Absolute reveal that soon tbh.
Act 3 gives you a lot of urgency and yet there is so much to do apart from the main story. I like it, but realistically you would try to focus on the main task, I guess. If you have Jaheira recruited, she will at least tell you, that you have to make friends in the city to help you in the things to come. I don't know, how it is without her.
I still think, Omeluum should have been included in the last fight/ mindflayer decision, if alive.
"We are all stories in the end. Just make it a good one."
Doctor Who
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